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                    <text>“Not Only Are My Devices What They Are When They Were Given to Me, But Now They’re Like
What I Want Them to Be”
Archive of Personal Digital History
Interview #13 – Post-1980 Birthdate
September 24, 2018
Introduction
The following pages consist of an oral history interview between the interviewer, Megan Yang
(denoted MY), and her subject, Kyle Scar* (denoted KS). This interview was conducted on Monday,
September 24th, 2018 around 11:30am in study room 207 of the Oxford College Library.
Kyle Scar is an Asian American first-year student at Oxford College of Emory University. He was
originally born in Germany, but has most recently lived in Newport, Massachusetts. He first had regular
in-home access to a digital device of some sort at age 5, personally owned one at age 8, and is now able
to code in Swift (Xcode) – a programming language. For this interview, Kyle chose to talk about the
general family of Apple products (e.g. MacBook, iPhone, iPad, Apple Watch).
Megan Yang is also an Asian American first-year student at Oxford College of Emory University.
She was born in California, moved to Connecticut, and then lived in Shanghai, China for twelve years. At
Emory, she hopes to study marketing and international business while double-majoring in psychology.
Her goal for this interview is to understand the technological habits of someone in the same generation as
herself in order to grasp a bigger picture understanding of “digital natives” and digital literacies.
_____________________________________________________________________________________
MY: Hi Kyle*, how are you doing on this fine Georgia foggy day?
KS: Good. How are you? It's foggy?
MY: Yeah, I thought I saw some clouds outside.
KS: Oh I thought it was pretty sunny
MY: In this interview I will ask you to take me on a guided tour of a digital device that is particularly
significant for you and that you use frequently, like your phone, laptop, gaming system, or other device. If
the device enables it, I would like to you review a record of your activities from the past month, such as
note entries, phone calls, texts, emails, websites, and social media interactions. And talk to me about the
people you interact with, the places you go, and the way you use media and communication technologies.
You can decide what to comment on, or you can decide when to share an example by showing me
something on the device. You should only sharae an example when you feel comfortable doing so. Also,
please don’t share anything illegal or any information that would compromise the privacy of another

�person and please don’t mention names of other people. When referring to other people, please use their
role rather than actual name. For example, coworker/family member/friend.
KS: So you want the tea, got it chuckle
MY: Before we begin, do you have any questions? (KS: Shakes head no) Do you mind if I take a picture
of your devices? (KS: No)
KS: Oh, wait, was I supposed to bring all the stuff I was going to talk about? (MY: I think it's better to
just focus on one, just reference the others in your responses)
MY: Just use the phone (KS: Sure why not, so there’s more substance to this) I’m gonna include the
Apple logo [in my picture] (KS: Oh my gosh! That's so extra)
MY: Tell me about why you chose these devices.
KS: It’s only because I use them currently; I used to use PC and you know like flip phones but obviously
those old devices [are] not suitable for society nowadays So I switch to these guys they're more
interconnected with other people
MY: So why do you think the things in the past are incompatible with today’s society?
KS: Through our advancements in technology we have...our methods of communication are dependent on
basically a higher standard of digital technology...so like a couple years ago when I had my “flip phone”
it was like you have to click, you know, whatever number this many amount of times, type in a letter and
whatever, you couldn’t access the web or any of that, so now you have a smartphone that can do all of
that you can text easier with a keyboard you can access Facebook email basically all that people use
nowadays to communicate so like we were talking earlier about the Goldman Sachs person coming in and
I had no idea because I don't check Facebook if I had my older phone it barely be a possibility, because I
would need a laptop or desktop to open Facebook and check it. But now I can just do it on my phone
communication devices are almost required if you hadn't told me about that, then like, I would never
know
MY: I relate to this talk about the flip phone cuz I had a pink Motorola and it was like “uhhhh this is so
hard”
KS: It cost money to text, unlimited plans were not heard of...with a laptop the only reason I use a
MacBook is because the Apple company is like a freaking genius they basically pull you in and make you
unable to use any other devices; with my MacBook I can sync up to my phone, Apple Watch, iPad and all
your devices are connected. It's all about connecting
MY: That's an interesting angle I didn't think about that before. Okay so that was the introduction, now
we're going to move into the specific parts. I want you to talk to me about the activities you do on your
phone. Do you have any apps or programs that you use to plan, coordinate, or record your activities?

�KS: Yes, as of recently I use Microsoft Outlook, which is what Emory provides us. I use emails for
communications, calendar for, you know, calendar chuckle and yeah that's to keep track of my stuff. I also
use the text messaging app because I yell at my friends to remind me to do things and they either call or
text me so I guess that's also a way of keeping track of things; or I text myself which you could not have
done with a flip phone.
MY: So based on what you do on your device and what you see on your apps what are your main
activities and of those, which are most significant to you personally?
KS: Well...um, I'm going to actually check what activities I do chuckle chuckle I don’t go on Snapchat at
all, which is so weird. I think I probably use YouTube the most
MY: I didn’t actually start using YouTube until quite recently. Now I just watch a bunch of videos and
comment like everywhere. Before I didn't even use it at all, I felt that when I was in middle school
everybody else around me was really active on listening to music, watching TV shows, and I didn’t know
any of this stuff.
KS: Just kidding, it's Messenger and Messages which I think will be the same on my laptop unless you
count Google Chrome as an app. You text people, you do your homework with Microsoft Word or any
Word Processor and so for the phone with the interconnectedness them I use it for connecting with people
my social media apps are definitely on the top
MY: Yeah same
KS: For my laptop I would say like I would use it for mostly school and other personal endeavors
*hahaha* So I basically just use Google Chrome and essentially for school stuff, it’s either to write an
essay or search up pictures of cute dogs...I don't like dogs...bunnies
MY: Baby animals are so cute all the time
KS: Oh and Pokemon, you know how I sent those to the chat?
MY: Yeah. What patterns do you notice and what you do on your devices and the role your device plays
in them?
KS: So [on] my phone, I actually have an app that tracks exactly what I do for exactly how much time. I
spend a good portion of my time on the lock screen and home screen just staring at it, because I forgot
what I needed to do. So I just kind of...that's what I do generally. I open my phone, “ooh it’s turned on”,
“let me just unlock it”, but I have nothing to do and then I close it again.
MY: Can I check out the app you're talking about? I feel like I should get it too.
KS: I’ve been using it for awhile.

�MY: Do you create your own categories or does it create categories for you?
KS: It does like apps and stuff, I forgot how to do it, but basically this is over the course of August 21
(one day). So I picked up my phone 34 times, screen time is 3 hours and 32 minutes, so each time I
picked up here and picked up picked up…
MY: Exact times...woah technology!
KS: I know right? Interconnectedness. (MY: Oh my gosh, right!) and then um I have a coach which helps
you stop using your phone. Specifics somewhere, which tells you like you spent an hour on screen, two
minutes in a messaging app. (MY: What’s [the app] called?) Moment. (MY: I’m gonna download that
later, like for real)
KS: Wait are you international?
MY: Well I’m a domestic student, kind of ish. (KS: So you have an adapter) I lived in China for 12 years
(KS: I didn't know that)
MY: What important activities are not reflected in your digital devices?
KS: I guess honestly nothing. I think if you were able to take my devices you will be able to find literally
everything that I do, you know you can infer it from certain activities that you do. For example like if I
text someone to meet up at Lil's then you'll know for the next 30 minutes when I’m not on my phone I'll
be eating with friends. And then like... And then if there's just like a few hours at night when I'm not on
my phone I'm sleeping. It's like I think that device literally if you spend enough time you can figure out
exactly what I do ever since I got it.
MY: It’s all about intuition (KS: But also like technology)
MY: So this next section I'm going to ask you about the people you interact with through your devices. So
are there any apps or programs you use to communicate people?
KS: So my laptop and my phone are both synced up with my Apple Watch I have no battery, oh I love
that. (MY: What a first world problem!) Do you mind if I borrow your charger? (MY: That's completely
fine.) Interconnection. Exactly. We can all use each other's things because we have the same device but
Apple freaking changes the USB jack every single day and they just came out with three new iPhones XS,
XR, XS plus or something.
KS: Like everything is interconnected in my reminders, which I’m totally putting off (MY: Yeah I have
those too) It's so nice your life is basically streamlined like if I go to messages off right I'm texting
someone... “I’m in an interview demonstration please ignore”. On my computer it'll show the time on my
messages on my phone. And so like once I go off it disappears from my laptop. I just kind of use that app
so I just kind of have to duplicate apps on both of them to sync what's going on. please Outlook
messenger and whatever forms are online that I happen to be using canvas and any music apps share

�playlist use Spotify I use apple music. I’m just constantly sharing data with people. Especially because
in my messages app I can share my location with people (MY: GPS!) Tell me about it
MY: What patterns do you notice in your communications with others using your devices?
KS: One of the patterns I noticed is that I never communicate. You'll notice that you can see that I have a
lot of messages. I don't read the messages...I don't bother to check messages because it doesn't go into my
head. Like it's just like I don't understand the necessary need to be constantly texting. (MY: Yeah, yeah)
I'm going to do it like...I will only text so that I can see the person in-person.
MY: Yeah I don't want to text either I just like to read all my notifications, so you’ll see on my phone that
I have no red bubbles on my apps
KS: I hate the red bubble so much...it makes it feel like something's hanging over my head. I don't know
what these messages are you know…(MY: They could be junk messages for all we know) or my mom is
in the hospital, you never know. It kind of bothers me a lot but also…
MY: How do you decide which mode of communication to use over another? Do you use particular
modes of communication for certain situations or people?
KS: I prefer to use call, only because I'm a musician I guess and I'm like I used to be into music quite a lot
and I was born where there was a lot of music. I'm like halfway dependent on the same with my ears
(MY: So, audio input) like my audio input like the sounds gets stuck in a chronological loop of my head.
But I don’t understand really like language you know, like if you say “Hi, my name is Megan” it'll take
me awhile to understand that because I don't understand words...like the words don't make sense to me
but because of my musical background I'm more heavily dependent on tone, so it’s much harder for me to
communicate over text. I mean text isn’t that bad because I’m reading it and not hearing it, but if someone
were to give me a monotone voice, like not Siri but you know like a text-to-speech kind of thing and is
kind of just like reading to me, I have so much trouble understanding those types of things. I cannot
communicate with someone who speaks like that. (MY: Like reading these questions on a piece of
paper....) That's why in classrooms I have so much trouble understanding when teachers read questions
off of a paper, because your voice goes monotone and it's hard for me to understand. I prefer to talk over
phone, but if it's a super short thing I'll text. Otherwise I'll be like stop texting me because I don't want to
talk to you!
MY: What important actions with people are not reflected in your device?
KS: Well...sexual relations. Especially if it's like not an ongoing relationship, but stuff like a one-night
stand usually happens out of the blue. Any strangers I meet, like I never get like a missed connection kind
of deal. Those connections you don't follow up and I guess like...no my teachers are on my phone. (MY: I
don't know, I didn't think of it that way) It’s the people that are unimportant just never make it to the
phone, which I guess makes sense.
MY: Now that we're done talking about people let's talk about places. So now look through your device
and see what records you have of the places you have visited during the past month. You can have Google

�Maps, Location Services or like Foursquare. (MY: I don't use Foursquare) I have no idea what Foursquare
is.
MY: So what apps or programs if any, do you have of place recording?
KS: So I have messages which tells me that place is just because you know where we talk about plans
(MY: Exactly) I have my Snapchat, right, which has the filter and I save it. Instagram saves my location
whenever I post and I have Photos which saves your location as well. And I have I guess just whatever
app is using my location services right now.
MY: With these location tracking services, how did you decide which ones can use your location and
which ones don’t?
KS: Oh I think it's basically more of like a biased intuition...um…if in the past some unfortunate thing has
happened either to me or someone I’ve heard of, um, based on one app or whatever, I probably won’t let
them read my location. Generally I don't really care where people know where I am, I mean like I have
nothing to hide, you know. (MY: We’re all good kids here) Like I'm not going to cheat on anyone chuckle
MY: Do you use any apps or programs to navigate or discover locations, or check into places like maybe
you're trying to find something find a restaurant nearby?
KS: I just have Google Maps, Waze, my laptop, and Find My iPhone because I lose my phone all the
time. That's about it, oh, Outlook can tell me where I go. My messages also help me discover new places
because that’s where I plan things. Messages basically controls my entire life.
MY: Sounds like that; there's like 2000 red bubbles on top. So what patterns do you notice in the places
you visit?
KS: They're very introverted places, I guess, because I'm an introvert. They’re usually pretty introverted,
like the library, a nice restaurant, like some low-key amusement park or something where I don't have to
directly deal with a lot of people. You know it's fine...I mean it's not that okay, but it's kind of fine if are
people just around me and I don’t have to interact with a lot of them at once. But places like a club, that
would not be somewhere that would be reflected on my phone because there’s too many people, too many
noises. Concerts, clubs, you know… (MY: I go to concerts but no clubs)
MY: How did you first learn to navigate locations using these apps or traditionally using a physical map
or landmarks?
KS: Oh, so this is interesting! I did use a physical map at one point, and I did not have Google Maps on
my phone at one point. I remember the first time I got an Apple device, I could write anything with the
touch screen, anything with those capabilities. Because I was so young it was so much more intuitive than
I had imagined it to be. I guess not because I was young, but because I was exposed before because I was
kinda late in the whole device-getting thing; everyone had iPads and when I got one I was just like I know
how to use it! The first time using Maps I had no clue what the frick was going on, right? Like there is a

�bubble in the middle and I was like that must be me. It reminded me of when you go to the mall and you
see the ‘you are here’ sign and nobody tells you that the dot is you. It's kind of like...I'm going to assume
that's me because you walk around and the blue follows. I don't know I'm just kind of like....All apps have
like the same kind of layout. Menu, drop-down, search button, and all that stuff; so once I got used to one
app all my apps kind of kind of came with me. Google Maps was one of the later ones, so all I had to
figure out was ‘I’m that blue dot’.
MY: Alright so now we’re gonna talk about media. Like that’s so important. chuckle chuckle So what
records do you have of the media you used in the last month? We’re interested in social media posts,
texts, photos, music, videos, TV shows, movies, and games, that you have watched, listened to, played, or
that you yourself have created or distributed. These could be social media entertainment media, news
media, or any other kind of media or information. You might have records, browser history, Google
searches, Netflix, YouTube, social media.
KS: Okay let's go to my history.
MY: Okay, so based on what you see on your device, what apps or programs do you use most frequently
to access or produce social media? And then what types of media do you create?
KS: For the social apps, I use Messages, phone calling, FaceTime, Snapchat, Instagram, Facebook, and
Facebook Messenger app as well as Outlook and Canvas. Those are my most used ones.
MY: Do you create media like music with GarageBand?
KS: I never got to the GarageBand phase...I usually just wrote the songs on a sheet of paper, on sheet
music. Yeah I guess I create media...you'll see my search history, I was looking at pictures of Pokemon
like Ninetales, Deoxys, and Milotic and it was more Sarah* because I have no idea what the names of
these Pokemon were. I took a picture of them with my phone on my laptop, you know. I created a little
meme chuckle chuckle Yeah like I produce media all the time because everytime I type something, every
time I take a picture of something, every time I meme-ify something.
MY: Yeah, memes are basically the backbone of culture these days. (KS: For real though) They’re
the way we transmit culture.
[interviewee took a bathroom break, transcript continued...]
MY: So we’re restarting the recording because Kyle* took a bathroom break. Ok, so for the media
questions, I was looking through and I don't think we need to ask all of them. Tell me about any strategies
you may have for protecting your privacy in regards to your media usage.
KS: I mean I just don't share what I don't want to share. Generally I have no privacy.
MY: I think there's a future in Snapchat called ‘my eyes only’ that you know you can like set a password
and put stuff there that I guess isn’t for public eyes. I forgot my password so I can't go back anymore. I'm

�so sad and I remember it was my last phone password, but I don't remember my last phone password
because I got a new phone.
KS: There’s a similar thing where it can lock access to one of your apps. If someone goes on one of your
apps in your phone and they’re trying to get into the Messages app. The settings allow you to require a
password before getting in. I did that for a couple of my apps. We need a password manager thing; those
things are so sketchy because once you know one password, it leads to all of your passwords, you know
what I mean? (MY: Like one key)
MY: What important media information are not reflected in your device? You might read newspapers,
magazines, listen to the radio, watch TV, go to the movies, play video games.
KS: I guess like going to the movies. But that's still something that I plan on my device so I guess I mean
that's still doesn’t count. I don't think anything is not reflected. (MY: We're basically controlled by
technology now, is that what you're saying?) chuckle chuckle
MY: Of the apps and programs you told me about, are any of them especially significant for you?
KS: I guess just Messages, yeah. (MY: Because you use it the most frequently, yeah)
MY: Now we're going to move on to the digital literacy questions, which is basically how you know how
to use technology and like how do you see yourself as proficient in doing technology-related things. How
did you start using digital technology, and how has your relationship with it changed over time?
KS: Okay, so I got a Mac and a phone after using PC devices and Android-based whatever (not really)
just the regular flip phone stuff. It was just like multiple, like learning points. One when I first got my
iPad, so I had to learn general iOS and that took a while, but then I got my iPhone right? And then
because there are differences between iPads and iPhones obviously, to have so many more features on the
phone. And then I also had to get used to everything since they’re all on the cloud server and then I got
my Mac, Apple Watch and they all start connecting everywhere and I was like, oh my gosh, do I need all
of these devices? They're busy doing the same thing and also interconnected. This past year, I learned
how to code in Swift programming; so now it's like not only are my devices what they are when they
were given to me, but now they’re like what I want them to be. You know if I want, I can change
whatever feature I want. I can just going into the code, like, and figure out what's going on. I used my
knowledge. Took a lot of time, but I figured it out (MY: Coding is scary). Now my devices are my child,
I can mold [them] into whatever I want.
MY: You used to consume technology, now you help create it.
MY: Of the activities you’ve described so far, which is the most complicated to learn and what makes
them so complex?

�KS: I think programming because it’s the heart of the device. Literally, if you learn programming,
that’s you learning everything there is to learn about the device. So in a way, you can’t get any
harder than that. (MY: Yeah, yeah).
MY: What contexts do you use coding for?
KS: Giving myself things I don’t deserve (MY: Yeah, totally wouldn’t want to do that)
MY: We have to write a transcript.
KS: You have to type all of this up? Shizz...I should’ve made my answers shorter, I’m sorry. (MY: That’s
okay, you still have a few more chances to give shorter answers)
MY: Can you tell me about any activities you wish you could complete with your device, and why?
KS: Like some capability my device already has, or if I could add something to my device? (MY: Like
whatever you think that question means)
KS: It would be great if the devices had movies in 4d, but not actual 4d because that would be insane, but
like movie 4d, you know, like senses; touch, feel, smell, taste. Like if I could lick my device if someone
sent me a lollipop, like that would be kinda great. (MY: Maybe in 20 years or something) but I also don’t
want to smell a fart. If someone sent me a fart, I’d be like what? (MY: So that’s more like we need
technology to advance even more)
MY: Do you feel you have the digital skills you need to operate effectively in a professional context?
KS: Oh yeah, definitely, because I worked at a, uh, startup company this past summer as a financial
manager. Like I didn’t use a Mac, but I definitely used what I learned from using Apple devices and
pushed it onto the other devices, yeah. (MY: Mhmm)
MY: Could you tell me how you’re gauging that, measuring that, kinda like how do you know?
KS: Just because I’ve done it.
MY: How about in an academic context?
KS: Yeah, because I’m surviving currently. (MY: We’re pulling through)
MY: How would you describe someone who is digitally literate?
KS: Someone who can use the device to find out how to use the device, I think, is digitally literate.
MY: Wow, that’s nice. I’m gonna talk about that in our class discussions because that’s super interesting.
Would you consider yourself digitally literate?

�KS: Oh, yeah.
MY: How did you learn to be digitally literate?
KS: Trial and error, and/or someone taught me.
MY: Is there anything else you would like me to know? Something that I didn’t ask that I should’ve
asked? (KS: I think you’re good).
MY: Yay!! Thank you so much. This definitely yielded a bunch of great insights!
*Disclaimer: Names changed for confidentiality reasons.

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Interview with the Men’s Head Basketball Coach About His Digital Experiences
Archive of Personal Digital History
Interview #14 - Pre-1980 Birthdate
October 13, 2018
Introduction
This is an oral interview with Steph Williams1 who is the Head Coach of the Oxford
College Men’s Basketball team conducted by Osasere Collette. The coach is an African
American male who is also a native to Georgia and born within the five year range of 1966-1970.
Osasere Collette is a first-year student at Oxford College of Emory University. He is
Nigerian-American, mainly raised in Hackensack, NJ, and born in the range of 2000-2005. His
intentions for this interview were to provide insight on a person’s experience with digital media
and also see how they might contradict the ideology of a digital native, being that they both were
born in two different five-year ranges.
Transcript
OC: In this interview, I would like to ask you to take me on a guided tour of a digital device that
is particularly significant for you and that you use routinely for example, your mobile phone,
laptop, desktop computer, gaming system, or some other device important to you. If the device
enables it, I would like you to review records of your activities during the past month such as
calendar entries, text messages, phone calls, emails, websites, and social-media interactions and
talk to me about the people you interact with, the places you go, and the ways you use media and
communication technologies. You can decide what to comment on and what to ignore, and you
can decide when to share an example by showing it to me on your device. You should only
share examples when you feel comfortable doing so. Also, please don’t share information about
anything illegal or information that would compromise the privacy of another person, and please
don’t mention the names of other people. When referring to other people, please name them by
their role rather than their name: for example, a co-worker or a family member. Before we begin,
do you have any questions?

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Following the protocol established with my Institutional Review Board, participant names are
pseudonyms to preserve confidentiality.

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HC: No.
OC: Tell me about why you chose this device.
HC: Well I use my desktop computer in my everyday work activities...um...had this computer for
a long time...um... also I have two screens because of the amount of information that I am
using....um… helps me to get my work done faster.
OC: Oh that’s good because you have two of them. Usually I see people with a Mac, but you
have a Dell and Samsung...you know different platforms. Um… To start, I’d like to ask you to
look through your device to see what records you have of the activities you were involved in
during the past month. You might have records of activities in a calendar app, for example, like
a to-do list, in invitations to events through social media, or in a journaling app. What apps or
programs, if any, do you use to plan, coordinate, or record your activities?
HC: Well in the Outlook system they have a calendar and on that calendar um the major different
activities or events that I have… I try to put as much of that on the calendars as possible so i can
organize my days, weeks and months ahead and also so I don’t miss out on certain things you
can’t remember… I normally use the Outlook calendar to organize my events.
OC: Okay...So like, Based on what you see on your device, what are your main activities? If that
makes sense, since you are a head coach and director of the athletic program at Oxford College.
HC: Um…meetings are the most part of what consumes most of my time...working simple issues
with workers or just dealing with day to day things that they need done where we have an open
door policy and some of them are not even on my calendar, but um... a lot of the day to day
activities take up majority of my time.
OC: Okay, and do you have any other activities not reflected in Outlook?

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HC: Uh...yes like I stated I do try to put practices, games, meetings, and personal things on the
calendar so that I won’t forget those, but umm… things do come up a lot that are not on the
calendar and I have to make adjustments for every day.
OC: Next I’d like to ask you to look through your device to see what records you have of the
people you were involved in during the past month. For example, you might have records of
people you contacted, or who contacted you, in your phone records, your text messages, your
emails, your social-media interactions, or your video calls such as Skype or FaceTime. There is a
certain question that I have since you did pick a computer, just like what other apps and
programs like Outlook, do you use to communicate with other people?
HC: Um… well advantage with the computer...um...if i put things...the system synchronize..for
example anything I have on my desktop, it also goes to my mobile device. So umm… for
instance, just basic email...the other day I had to email a parent and I had to do that through the
regular Outlook email and umm...coworkers, alumni, friends of the family, so um… email...the
Outlook email is something that I can use on my phone.
OC: Ok, how do you decide which mode of communication to use over another? For example,
do you use particular modes of communication for particular situations or even people?
HC: Well a lot of people want to use the email and text messaging, but I still prefer to talk to
people over the phone so there won’t be miscommunication even better than texting and
emailing.
OC: Next, with the next phase of this interview, I’d like to ask you to look through your device
to see what records you have of the places you went during the past month. For example, you
might have records of places on your calendar, in a mapping application such as Google Maps, in
the Location Services data of your phone, in location-based social media such as FourSquare, or
in self-tracking apps such as the ones used for fitness. What apps or programs do you use any
apps or programs to navigate your locations? What are they?

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HC: I do, um...mainly the Google and um…...just the other past month we had to google certain
distances for the Men’s and Women’s Soccer game and I used Google Maps for that. Also, you
talked about apps and we deal heavily in FaceBook. With me overseeing part of the social media,
I do use my desktop for FaceBook to get that information to the public.
OC: A lot of people use FaceBook nowadays. Um...like...do you use any apps or programs to
check in to places? What are they? Does that make sense?
HC: (Long Pause)...And you mean on my desktop? To check in? Well… at work to get into your
work system, you have to provide a username and password to get into my work system and I
have to do that pretty much daily...and then some confidential things within that which is
financial information and budget information you always have to sign in with different
passwords and codes to get into those areas.
OC: Basically, I’m going to transition into another topic of this interview. I’m just going to ask
you about the media that you use. Like you did mention FaceBook earlier. An example question
would be like based on what you see on your device and the certain apps that use, what do you
think you access and use the most?
HC: FaceBook is the platform that I use the most, we started to use Instagram to track athletic
events within the athletic department, but I have very limited access and use with the
FaceBook...I mean Instagram, but I mainly use FaceBook alot. Either looking at personal or
doing work.
OC: For the athletic page, I wanted to know the strategy for storing the media for the Oxford
College community?
HC: Umm...we have our Oxford College Athletic homepage mainly designed for sports
information and stories to keep the general public informed of the athletes and athletic events.
We use different ways...like sometimes we’ll provide the score during matches...we have a
center for helpful living...Student-Athlete of the Month...we put that type of information out

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there...the academic successes of the student-athletes on the FaceBook, but it is mainly to keep
are fans and anyone else interested involved.
OC: Okay...In this final section, I’d like you to reflect on your history with the device and apps
you have shared with me, focusing on how you learned to use them in the way that you currently
do. With the information that you have shared with me, How did you start using digital
technology, and how has you relationship with it grown throughout your lifetime?
HC: Well...I started using digital...digital technology when I was around 6. We were one of the
first families to have like a personal computer and a gaming system. It was pretty much stick
ball...stick ball tennis video game.. And we had this video gaming system...I don’t know the
exact name of the system, but one of my family members was into computers, so I remember we
got a Radio Shack computer when we were like 10 to be able to play games on...and then it went
to Atari and Nintendo and other games. At one point, we would spend majority of our time
outside playing, but as I became a teenager, we would spend a little more time playing the video
and computer games and I remember telling someone that we are going to be the first generation
to see a 70 year old man playing a video game with their grandkids. Umm...like you wouldn't see
my parents or older relatives.. They normally did not play video games, but my generation is
going to play Madden when they are older and that’s going to be different. I don't use technology
as much as some people, but for instance I do use the Samsung phone and I do know the benefits
of it, but for like the different social media I do not have...I don't keep up with all of the different
trends that come out like SnapChat and all of that...I normally don't do that...I just stick with
FaceBook…(pause)...but my family member also told me that one day everything is going to be
done on one little device. To be truthful you can do everything on a simple device. You can get
all of the software, all of the apps...I’m still at the point where I need something done fast, I ask
my son to do it. I can do it, but he can do it a lot faster, he doesn't even have to think about it. For
me , it will take me a few more minutes to get in done, but he just knows how to maneuver
through the apps and whatever we’re doing.
OC: I was going to say that's interesting because in my class we are told that of how the
generation after 1990 was basically the only generation to overly use technology...and that's

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interesting because you said that you were born in the 1966-1970 range and still used technology
at a fairly early age due to the terminology. If you were born after the 1990 cutoff, using
technology is second nature to you, while if you were born before 1990 you are a digital
immigrant, but you had it since you were 6.
HC: It kind of depends on the person's personality too. For example another family member...I
have two… they do their living in computers dealing with software versus myself where I didn't
do it as much...so sometimes it just depends on the personality. I at a very young age, computer
science was a trending thing and I have some friends who are very good at it, but for me I
understand its importance, but I don’t overly use it.
OC: For the next question, How would you describe someone who is digitally literate? Basically
having the basic skills to understand how technology works?
HC: Um, like we mentioned with my son, it really doesn't matter he learns quickly, but with my
wife she went from an Samsung to an iPhone to a Google phone and each time it took her awhile
to get adjusted, but she was able to. Someone I consider literate won't be able to understand
technology automatically, but if they look at it they can figure it out and don't mind to figure
out...but the ones who don't want to do it and don’t even try are the ones who are digitally
illiterate.
OC: Okay.. and for the last question, is there anything else you would like me to know? Is there
something I did not ask that I should have asked?
HC: (Long Pause)....... no...I think that’s good.
OC: Well, this went well (laughing).

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Interview #6 - Post-1980 Birthdate
September 24, 2018
I am Carolyn and I am a freshman in Oxford College of Emory University. This is an interview conducted
in a residential hall on campus. A is my interviewee; she is an international student from India and she is
also a college student here.
According to her, she uses mobile phones frequently in her daily lives. After I informed her about the
content of this interview, she chose her mobile phone as the digital device she wanted to talk about.
Transcription of Interview with A
Carolyn: Tell me about why you choose this device?
A: Um, Okay, so I feel like I just choose my phone because I feel like I use it the most, um, and I carry it
around with me, like, almost all the time and everywhere. Um, so that’s why I would describe it as the most
significant.
Carolyn: Cool, to start, I would like to ask you to look through your device to see what records you have of
the activities you were involved in during the past month, and you might have records of activities in a
calendar app, for example, in a to-do list, in invitation to events through social media, or in a journaling
app. So, what apps or programs, if any, do you use to plan, coordinate, or record your activities?
A: So, I would say to plan and coordinate my activities I will probably use the calendar map most. Um,
mainly because, um, whether it is like someone send me an email, like Gmail or Outlook school related or
not, the calendar automatically, like, adds it to its app, And I get like a notification, when that's gonna
happen so I think that’s really convenient. And I just use the one on my phone because, like, I want
everything to be in one place and since I carry my phone around with me everywhere it seems like the most
convenient. So, I use my calendar to set time, um, where I have to do something or places that I have to go.
Um, but to sort of record my activities I will probably use Snapchat or some other social media devices or
like WhatsApp.
Carolyn: So, based on what you see in your devices, which are the most significant to you?
A: The apps? Or the activities?
Carolyn: The activities doing in the apps, like those apps, which one do you use most?

�A: which app do I use most? Um, so I think I would use WhatsApp the most and Outlook, my email the
most.
Carolyn: So, what patterns do you notice in your activities and the role your device plays in them?
A: So, for my activities, umm, any patterns that I sort of think? I think it will only be in terms of whether it
is something like messaging, who I want to message and that is sort of determining the app. Like if I want
to message my family that I would use WhatsApp because a lot of people in India use WhatsApp, while in
US it is not that common. But maybe something like um over here, I would probably use Snapchat,
Instagram, and I think the same thing kind of go through like email… If it is school-related I will probably
use Outlook, but if not, I usually use my Gmail account.
Carolyn: So, what important activities are not reflected information on your device?
A: Yeah, I don't think there are any activities that such.
Carolyn: Next, I'd like to ask you to look through your device, to see what records you have of the people
you were involved in during the past month, so ummm, what do you decide with modes of communication
to use over another? which mode of communication to use over another? Like, do you use particular mode
of communication to particular situation or people?
A: Well, like I said, I would use WhatsApp if it’s someone in India, I would use Instagram or Snapchat if
it is not, I will use Gmail Netflix non-academic and for Outlook if it is academic.
Carolyn: What important interactions this people are not reflected in information on your device?
A: Probably just day-to-day conversations, you know, in the dining hall, or in class that is not really
recorded, but those are pretty important.
Carolyn: Now, I'd like to ask you to look through your device, to see what records you have of the places
you went during the past month. So, like what apps or programs if any have recorded the places you visited?
A: I think I would be there in Google Maps. I use Google Maps sometimes to navigate from place to place.
If I go to my history it says I've gone to Atlanta over the weekend. I went to the Opera House. And an Asian
restaurant. So those are probably the places.
Carolyn: So, do you allow any apps to track your movement or permit your location services?
A: Um, no, I don’t. So, the only apps I am aware of that does that is Snapchat, and for privacy reasons, I
am in ghost mode and do not allow people to see.
Carolyn: Yeah, that makes sense. So how did you first learn to navigate new locations?
A: Are you asking before phones came in or after?

�Carolyn: After.
A: Oh, after? After phones I would just use Google maps.
Carolyn: In this last section I'd like to ask you to look through your device, to see what records do you have
of the media you used during the past month. So, based on what you see on your device, what apps or
programs do you use most to access or produced media?
A: I use social media, I use Google, I use YouTube, I use quite a lot of apps to access my
media. I think what would be the most significant to me is probably Google.
Carolyn: Tell me about any strategies you may have for protecting your privacy with your media usage?
A: Well I don't turn on the location services for most of my apps. Because I just don't think it’s that use for
me, and I think for me the cons outweighs the pros. So, that's basically it is at all I do turn on the location
for my phone as a whole it's because I thought we take an Uber or something that I need my location, but
if not, I avoid it as much as possible.
Carolyn: And in this final section, I'd like to reflect on your history with the device and apps you have
shared, and focusing on how you learn to use them in the way that you currently do.
How did you start using digital technologies and how's your relationship changed over time?
A: So, growing up I didn't really have that much access to digital technology, and something like that, and
I started to get access when I was about like 10 sorry 8 years old, and before that is not really a significant
part of my life, right now I know for a fact that it's changed quite a bit like I cannot cool anywhere without
my phone. How do I start using it maybe because I was influenced by my sister who started using it maybe.
I think she taught me how to use it to Google about it. So, that's probably how I started.
Carolyn: So, what were the most complex thing for your to learn through these activities on your social
media like those digital technologies?
A: Wait, specifically to social media or?
Carolyn: No, technology.
A: Particularly difficult for me... to sort of navigate my way through to research paper to find out
information find out information that is really focused on the topic that I want and important, I don't think,
I find that kind of hard to do.
Carolyn: Would you consider yourself digitally literate?
A: Would I consider... Yeah, I do. Ummm, yeah, I do think I'm digitally literate.

�Carolyn: How do you think you learnt to be digitally literate?
A: How do I learn... Probably through practice, like, initially I feels like my sister who really taught me my
Parents who taught me of the basics, but I think as being a curious person, you kind of just want to know
more and more, like, if I'm given like a new phone or like a new device I really want to know everything
about it, so I think that’s like one of the way, that when I was young I really want to learn more and deeper
more, and now I feel like it's relatively easier for me to, you know, to get those digital skills and be digitally
literate.
Carolyn: if there anything else you would like me to know?
A: No, I think that is fine.
Carolyn: Good. Thank you.
A: No problem.

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Introduction:
This oral history interview on digital literacies and technology use is with Fatima*, who is
interviewed by Ana Natalia. Fatima, a Ecuadorian woman born within the age range of 1965-1970, is an
entrepreneur and start-up consultant in the Boston area for companies started by women. She is also the
mother of three children.
Ana Natalia is a first year student at Oxford College of Emory University from Wellesley,
Massachusetts. She is a neuroscience major with an interest on studying digital technology’s effect on the
brain. The intent of this interview was to understand the role of technology in the life of someone who did
not grow up with digital technologies such as they are now. Furthermore, Ana Natalia wanted to explore
the ways in which technological literacies are learnt and/or developed over a long period of time.
*Pseudonym
Interviewer: In this interview I’d like to ask you to take me on a tour of a digital device particularly
significant to you and that you use frequently. If the device enables it I’d like you to review records of
your activities during the past month such as calendar entries, phone calls, emails, websites, and social
media interactions and talk to me about the people you interact with, the places you go, and the way you
use media and communication technologies. You can decide what to comment on and what to ignore and
you can decide when to share an example by showing it to me on your device. You should only share
examples when you feel comfortable doing so. Also please don’t share anything illegal or information
that would compromise the privacy of another person. And please don’t mention names of other people.
When referring to other people please name them by their role rather than their name. For example, coworker or family member. Before we begin do you have any questions?
Interviewee: No.
Interviewer: Do you mind if I take a picture of your device?
Interviewee: No.
Interviewer: Tell me why you chose this device?
Interviewee: Because I use it frequently.
Interviewer: To start I’d like you to look through your device and see what records you have of the
activities you were involved in during the past month. You might have recordings of activities in the

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�calendar app, or, for example, or in a to-do list or invitations to events through social media or a
journaling app. What apps or programs if any do you use to plan, coordinate, or record your activities?
Interviewee: Calendar.
Interviewer: And in what capacity do you use that app?
Interviewee: Every… Every week and umm… Sometimes every day.
Interviewer: And what do you use it for? What information is on that app?
Interviewee: It is not an app. It is part of the calendar. The calendar app. Um… The activities for my
family members and work commitments are what are on here.
Interviewer: So based on what you see on that calendar app what are your main activities?
Interviewee: Work meetings.
Interviewer: What patterns do you notice in your activities and the roles your device plays in them?
Interviewee: Could you please repeat?
Interviewer: What patterns do you notice in your activities such as your kid’s activities after school, or
your work activities and what role does your device, your iPhone, play in that?
Interviewee: Very important because it connects it directly and reminds me the… the email that was
initially referenced from and also timed and… specific meetings like where in the city that automatically
give me directions to get me to that point if I need it.
Interviewer: Ok. Are there any important activities that are not reflected in information that’s on your
device? So just to expand on that a little bit further- are there activities that you do during your daily life
that if I were to look on your phone I could not find any trace of them?
Interviewee: Passwords and registrations. Um… feels frustrating to access to too many passwords and
registrations in some cases but mostly passwords.
Interviewer: I’m talking about activities though. Things that you do on a day to day basis that are not on
your phone. So maybe you play tennis but it's not in your calendar so it's not reflected in the information
on your phone.
Interviewee: Um…
Interviewer: Are there any undocumented… digitally undocumented activities that you do day to day?

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�Interviewee: Yes.
Interviewer: And what are they?
Interviewee: Those are mostly related to my sports and, umm health. Daily exercises I usually do and I
have a schedule without the help of the calendar.
Interviewer: Ok. Next I’d like you to ask… Next I’d like to ask you to look through your device to see
any records of the people you were involved with over the past month. For example, you might have
records of people you’ve contacted or who contacted you in phone records, your text messages, you
email, your social media interactions or your voice calls such as Skype or Facetime. Please present roles
or relationship names instead of the person’s actual name. So what apps or programs, if any, do you use to
communicate with other people?
Interviewee: Whatsapp, mainly. Um… messaging and phone calls.
Interviewer: And is it mostly for business or for pleasure?
Interviewee: Entirely for business. And, um… It takes… Since the company I worth with is located
overseas they use… the easiest way to reach or be reached is through Whatsapp because it is free, allows
you to use it for longer periods of time, and allows you to send even files and pictures.
Interviewer: What patterns do you notice in your communication and the role your device plays in it? So
do you notice any pattern in your use of, maybe Whatsapp or another app that you use to communicate
with other people?
Interviewee: A pattern?
Interviewer: Yes.
Interviewee: Could you give me an example?
Interviewer: So, perhaps maybe I notice a pattern that I communicate differently with people online than I
do with people in person. Or maybe I notice that I usually call people at a certain time and text people at
another time. If you notice any pattern relating to your communication with other people online.
Interviewee: On my flowed of work I schedule… I have scheduled patterns of activities through, umm
Whatsapp to meet. The other well-used app is called Zoom.us which allows me to share a meeting and
even my computer.
Interviewer: So would you say that the patterns that you’ve noticed in your communication and the… is
that it tends to be more formal because of the apps or the context in which you’re using your device?
Interviewee: Yes, absolutely.

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�Interviewer: In this final section I’d like you to reflect on your history with the device and apps you’ve
shared with me focusing on how you’ve learned to use them in the way that you currently do. So my first
question is how did you start using digital technologies and how has your relationship with it changed
over time?
Interviewee: I started from the beginning with the, umm, what was called Blackberry that allowed to send
emails, umm, and the… In the mid-nineties and, uh, with that I went through to… only, uhh, iPhone and
Apple telephones. I never had any android or any of that kind. Um as much as I remember it used to be
emails in the very beginning with the Blackberry and then the iPhone came with the possibility of email
and also texting, uh, it has been advancing in the… In these ten past years have been the most advanced
changes in the levels of technology.
Interviewer: So of the activities that you have described so far, um, what are the most complex for you to
learn? Activities on your digital device, I mean.
Interviewee: The most complex?
Interviewer: Yes.
Interviewee: Umm… The most complex… I think that in general everything is user friendly and that is
the reason why it’s… they accomplished to have so many customers. It’s because their efficiencies. So I
don’t find it difficult whatsoever I think that umm… apps are umm tend to be boring but technology-wise
from the iPhone I think they are generally user friendly I don’t have any problems.
Interviewer: Ok. Can you tell me about when and how you learned to complete certain activities or was it
user friendly to an extent in which you didn’t feel like you had to learn any of the technologies you just
automatically knew how to work it.
Interviewee: Not it was not automatically but it’s a common sense. I think YouTube helps a lot if you do
not understand something and, umm, and that is… and that is key because you don’t need to talk to
anybody anymore.
Interviewer: To learn?
Interviewee: Yeah to learn. Now a days video has been the biggest component of success in technology.
In many cases it has been the help of video.
Interviewer: Are there any activities you wish you knew how to complete on your device that you don’t
already know or do you feel like you know everything you need to know?
Interviewee: Um, well, I think that for my particular needs I have everything that I need. I think, um, I… I
would like to be more efficient. I believe that younger generations… I’m in my late forties so I think
younger generations are faster than I in manipulating and understanding technology. But there is nothing

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�that has been… I mean software or apps like Zoom or, um, TeamViewer take a little bit of a while to
install but it’s not too difficult. Now if we’re talking about hosting websites or that level of things I would
like to be faster. I think it’s faster if… but I haven’t taken any class. I would have to take a class to be
more efficient with websites or understanding commercial platforms to put them to work. Um, dropship
platforms that I’d like to work with and understand better. Those are my difficulties but that’s less
technology it’s mostly software, um, and programming.
Interviewer: Ok. So if you were to answer what you were missing in order to complete these… learning
how to use programming to your advantage whether it is in business or just creating a website you think
you’re missing education in terms of classes or someone teaching you how to program?
Interviewee: Yes. Yes, definitely.
Interviewer: Ok. Do you feel you have the digital skills to operate effectively in a professional context?
Interviewee: No
Interviewer: How so?
Interviewee: I usually need to call someone that helps me to put together first time. After first time it’s in
general easier. Um but not on everything I think that, um, if you are asking about hardware, like
technology related to iPhones and all of that I think installing isn’t a big deal. However in terms of
software and programming it’s different as I mentioned. That’s a different world but I would like to know
more about it.
Interviewer: How would you describe someone who is digitally literate?
Interviewee: Um… I cannot answer that question but I can answer saying it depends on how… how good
is that person in administration and becoming a leader in that industry. That is what makes the difference
professionally. There are many professionals that world for big, big companies, but um, it depends what
they want. Is that what you’re asking about? Digital professionally?
Interviewer: If I just said the word “digitally literate” to you what would that mean? If I were to describe
someone as digitally literate?
Interviewee: A programmer.
Interviewer: A programmer?
Interviewee: Yeah
Interviewer: And would you consider yourself digitally literate?
Interviewee: Absolutely not.

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�Interviewer: Why not?
Interviewee: Because it is like having a vacuum or a dishwasher in a house. You know how to operate it
basically but you don’t know how to put it together or disassemble it.
Interviewer: So in order to from someone to be digitally literate by this metaphor you would need to have
a basic understanding of how the dishwasher works on a technical level.
Interviewee: If you said a digitally literate person I’m assuming it’s someone that for sure is capable to
put together programs or build programs. And it depends if one thing is hardware and another is software
for sure.
Interviewer: Yeah. Absolutely. So finally is there anything else you would like me to know? And is there
anything I did not asked but I should’ve asked in your opinion?
Interviewee: Um let me think… I don’t know how important this is but what makes me quite
uncomfortable as a user is that even though it’s user friendly most of us we have to hold it in our hand or
run with it… Everything is still done by hand. It’s difficult to carry so what many people do is just be
handy and in that sense I don’t see the technology so involved I don’t even know how we could supply
that. Probably with the watch? But it doesn’t seem like even that is taking over for the phone itself.
Interviewer: So if I hear you clearly you are saying that you wish digital technologies were in a format in
which you didn’t have to literally hold the phone you could just wear it or have it on your wrist?
Interviewee: Exactly, exactly. I don’t think that watch… the iPhone watch or whatever it is I don’t think
it’s taking over for the phone itself as of now.
Interviewer: And by taking over you don’t mean… you don’t think…
Interviewee: It’s not replacing the iPhone. The iWatch is not replacing the iPhone for sure.
Interviewer: And you would like to see it replace the phone?
Interviewee: Yeah to make it more comfortable as well. I’m worried about radiation as well.
Interviewer: Ok.
Interviewee: Radiation is one, holding it is another one, and uh, stress, um I can see it makes you anxious
at all times to have the world in your hands. It’s tiring sometimes.
Interviewer: Do you think that’s because of the actual fact that you’re holding a phone or do you think
that’s because of the nature of digital technology inherently?

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�Interviewee: I think it’s because of the nature of technology. Also because of the lack of legislation in
terms of what is allowed and what’s not. So it’s not… so if there’s not legislation about the, uh, age of the
people that should be having technology and if there’s not legislation to the point that there is on TV so in
the end of the parent doesn’t put… doesn’t put some restrictions on what to watch for the child the
government is behind while in Europe it seems to be… IN Europe and Asia they are more aware of the
constant stress and, uh, that it can cause. SO they are instead taking over in their hands and manipulating
the information that is distributed.
Interviewer: Thank you so much!
Interviewee: Thank you!

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Interview with an Asian Manager of an Insurance Company About Her Experience
with Digital Technologies
Archive of Personal Digital History
Interview #3 – Pre-1980 Birthdate
October 8, 2018
Introduction
This interview is conducted on October 8th via the Internet. The interviewee is an Asian
female who works in a Chinese insurance company. She was born around 1975-1980.
The purpose of this interview is to document how people born in different time interval
use digital technologies, and thus contribute to the Archive of Personal Digital History
(APDH) documenting how different generations use digital technologies.
Transcription
A: In this interview, I would like to ask you to take me on a “guided tour” of a digital
device that is particularly significant for you and that you use routinely. For example,
your phone, your laptop, desktop computer, gaming system, or other devices important to
you. If the device enables it, I would like you to review records of your activities during
the past month and talk to me about the people you interact with, the places you go, and
the ways you use media and communication technologies. You can decide what to
comment on and what to ignore, and you can decide when to share an example by
showing it to me on your device. You should only share examples when you feel
comfortable doing so. Also, please don’t share information about anything illegal or
information that would compromise the privacy of another person, and please don’t
mention the names of the other people. When referring to other people, please name them
by their role rather than their name: for example, “a co-worker” or “a family member.”
Before we begin, do you have any questions?
W: No.
A: Do you mind showing me a picture of your device and give me permission to take a
screenshot of that device?
W: This is my device.
A: Could you tell me why you chose this device?
W: Why I chose my cell phone? Two words: too convenient.
A: Having everything on your cell phone, right?
W: Everyone's contact information is on the cellphone. Now the mobile phone has nearly
all the function I needed, and it is very easy to carry.
A: Cell phones are indeed smaller than PCs.

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W: Indeed.
A: To start, I’d like to ask you to look through your device to see what records you have
of the activities you were involved in during the past month. You might have records of
activities in a calendar app, for example, or in a to-do list, in invitations to events through
social media. And if any, what do you use to plan something, coordinate, or record your
activities?
W: I have an App called Wonder List. I use this App mostly for listing work tasks and
deadlines. The user interface of this software is very simple, without ads, so I like to use
it to record my work-related things. I can also highlight some of the most important tasks
and review my past records after finishing them.
A: So, you use Wonder list to record your work tasks. Do you use any other Apps or
programs for your personal to-do list? For example, attending a display or hanging out
with friends?
W: I don’t put short-term activities on my list. My friends and I usually don’t plan to go
to any activities. We just usually run into some show or display by chance. We don't do
long-time planning. When we want to meet, we just gather together immediately. So,
there is no need for the to-do list. However, for long-time activities like traveling with my
family, I would put on my Outlook Calendar, reminding me to finish my task ahead and
leave e-mail to co-workers.
A: So, let’s move to another part. In this part, we are going to see what records you have
of the people you were involved in during the past month. Like communications with
other people through e-mail, messages, and phone calls. And please provide roles and
relationship names. Okay, the first question is what Apps or programs you use to
communicate with other people.
W: The App I used most frequently is WeChat.
A: Indeed! Chinese people like to use WeChat.
W: I also used QQ and e-mail.
A: How do you decide which mode of communication to use over another? Do you use
particular modes of communication for particular people?
W: I have several different e-mail accounts. I have a company e-mail to contact coworkers and deal with work tasks. To communicate with friends, I usually use QQ email.
I also use 163 e-mail to sign up membership in different Apps and receive ads.
A: So, is there any important interaction with people not reflected in information on your
device?
W: I use my cell phone for nearly all the connections. Only when I need to edit and send
documents or slides to other people, I will use my PC. Although my mobile phone allows

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me to edit all the documents and PowerPoints, I still found it more convenient to read and
edit on a larger screen.
A: So, now, I’d like to ask you to look through your device to see what record you have
of the places you went during the past month. And especially on your calendar or
mapping application like Google Maps. So, did you use any apps or programs to navigate
or discover locations for the past month?
W: I used Baidu Map when searching for new places. According to records, I have been
to the Northeastern part of China like Ha’erbin and the Western part of China like
Xinjiang. I always mark places I went to on Baidu Map.
A: So, because you travel for business meetings very often, do you allow apps to track
your movement or permit “Location Services” all the time?
W: I think the permission of location for apps like Baidu Map is very necessary when I
search for places, and because I don’t want to waste time to give permission each time I
use the app, I usually just open the Location Services all the time. I don’t think giving
permission to Baidu Map will expose privacy.
A: How did you first learn to navigate new locations? Did you read physical maps and
memorize landmarks?
W: I usually use Popular Reviews, [an App similar to Yelp], to search for restaurants and
places of interests when navigating new locations.
A: In the last section I would like to you ask you to Look through your device to see what
record you have of the media you used during the past month. Something like social
media, posts, texts, Photos music videos or anything you have read or listened to,
watched or that you have created and distributed.
W: I usually use VUE - movie &amp; video editor to record and edit videos. This App allows
me to shoot videos with different filters and support video stitching and editing. I used
this to function to organize my video based on the timeline.
A: How about your access to media?
W: I use Weibo most. And I also downloaded TikTok this month because all my friends
were using this App. But I found the videos very boring, so I plan to uninstall it. I saw a
lot of high school students really enjoying videos on this platform. But I did not enjoy the
jocks or funny moments of the younger generation.
A: What are some ways for you to store your media? Did you store them in your cell
phone or upload them to the Cloud.
W: After selecting, I usually upload some of my pictures, emails, and videos to the
Cloud. Because the memories of my cell phone are limited, I usually upload big-size files
to Baidu Cloud Pan. I can easily have access to my previous files on this App. It’s also
very convenient to retrieve the previous file if I lose my phone or computer.

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A: So, tell me about any strategies you may have for protecting your privacy with your
media usage.
W: I never mark my locations in my photos that I uploaded on any social platforms. I
only allow the map software to locate me, but I will not publish my location on the public
platform.
A: For security concerns?
W: Definitely. Also, I will feel very uncomfortable that there’s a chance that everyone
could know my position if I mark the place and upload it to the social platform.
A: What important media are not reflected in information on your device?
W: For the past month, I watched TV a lot. I enjoy watching TV series on larger screens.
Oh, I also went to the cinema several times.
A: So, in this final section, I’d like you to reflect on your history with the device and apps
you have shared with me, focusing on how you learned to use them in the way that you
currently do. The first question is how you started using digital technology and whether
you found the relationship changed over time.
W: I rely more and more on mobile phones. I can do everything in real life just by
clicking some bottoms on my cell phone. When the phone was not so smart, the
electronic device I used most is the computer. When smartphones have more and more
functions and recreational features, all my contacts are on the phone. I found that I used
Apps like WeChat all the time and I could barely live without them.
A: You told me a lot about what you have achieved by using your cell phone. Among
these activities you have described so far, which were the most complex for you to learn?
W: Right now, I think most of them are not difficult for me to get started because most of
them are designed to open to the public and to make a good experience for general
people. However, when I first have iPhone 4, my first smartphone, it still took me several
days to get used to the system. It was a completely different product. The phone I had
before did not have such a big screen. iPhone 4’s user interface was built around the
multi-touch screen, with a virtual keyboard. I had no idea how to download Apps and
how to use the virtual keyboards. After I got familiar with the system and user interface, I
found that I have no problem using later iPhone products like iPhone 7 or the latest
iPhone X.
A: Have you ever thought about why you could use the following new products without
encountering any difficulties?
W: It’s probably because the systems are quite similar. Although with some
improvement, I still use the same way to discover their new functions.
A: Can you tell me about any activities you wish you knew how to complete with your
device?

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W: I want to learn computer programing and be able to write code. I have always wanted
to learn, but I gave up. I was considering learning it again.
A: Do you feel you have the digital skills to operate effectively in a professional context?
How so?
W: I did not experience any difficulties when using digital devices for personal life, at
least right now. But for bank programs like the confidential information control program,
I found it very complicated because it required me to finish many procedures for each
client.
A: How would you describe someone who is digitally literate?
W: I don’t know. I am not sure what does digital literacy mean. We don’t use this word in
China. But I think the ability to analyze the information they attain form the Internet is
very important for someone defined as having digital literacy. I think someone who is
curious about new technologies and who is interested in and can access these products
could be considered digitally literate. For example, one of my friends bought almost
every new product from Apple and other brands to discover and review features and
improvements in new products. I think he is digitally literate. And also, those who are
digitally literate also analyze the trends of digital technologies and media. For example,
they can find business values in new media platforms and digital technologies.
A: Thank you for your time. Enjoy your week.
W: Thank you, you too.

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Archive of Personal Digital History
Interview #4 - Post-1980 Birthdate
September 23, 2018
Introduction
Interviewee: This is an oral history APDH interview that is taking place on September 23, 2018
in PP’s dorm room. PP is currently a college student attending a university in Georgia. She is
going to show us how she uses her iPad Pro in her everyday life as a part of the reflection
project that we will be conducting. Originally from Ho Chi Min City, Vietnam, PP moved to the
United States when she was 8 and has lived here ever since. Her first exposure to digital
technology was when she was 8 years old, and she has been using digital technology ever
since. She was born from 1996-2000, and knows a little bit of Java Script, a coding language
used in the digital technology world.
Interviewer: JC is also a college student attending a university in Georgia, but is originally from
Los Angeles, California. Her experiences with digital technology began when she was about 5
years old, and like PP, she has been using digital technology ever since. Prior to the point in the
interview when the transcription starts, JC and PP had already gone over the informed consent
form, the background intake form, and the consent to record this interview as an audio clip.

JC: “Can you tell me why you decided to choose this device?”
PP: “The reason why I decided to choose my iPad is because I use my iPad more often than
any other device. It’s portable, and it’s also very interactive, like touch screen, I’m able to write
on it, so I don't really have to bring multiple things with me when I do stuff and I also play games
on my iPad, watch YouTube and draw on it and I feel like it’s very efficient in a portable way to
facilitate so many activities.”
JC: “To start, I’d like to ask you to look through your device and see what records you have and
see what activities you were involved in this past month. You might have records of activities
like in a calendar app, or a to do list, etc. What apps or programs do you use to coordinate or
record your activities?”
PP: “So for my iPad, I don’t really plan anything on my iPad beside from iCloud sync, which I did
not do, because I wrote stuff on my computer and most of the time when I plan thing I use my
cellphone. Even though I use my iPad more often than my cell phone it’s kind of like a reminder
and stuff like that so I don’t really use social media on my iPad and things like that but I
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calendar app on my phone however I have like a notebook on my iPad, like I use it to write
notes on and things like that.”
JC: “So based on what you see on your device, what are the main activities that you do?”
PP: “The main activities I usually go to are one YouTube, two is my drawing program, and three
is my safari, the internet, or playing my games.”
JC: “And of these activities that you use, which one do you think is the most significant to you?”
PP: “Uhhh. Out of all of these, I think the most significant for me is the internet app. It’s because
I use it for various things and I have multiple incorporations into it like you could watch videos
with it, you could of course Google up things that you don’t know and look up stuff that you need
to look up and so I would say that I use these the most on my iPad more than others.”
JC: “Oh wait sorry this isn’t on the paper, but I was just wondering if you have your laptop, I
guess what makes your iPad different than your laptop, like why don’t you use your laptop. Is
[the iPad] just more portable or easy to take around?”
PP: “Well for me, since they are about the same size, which as you can see it makes really no
difference, but for me I just like the interactive interface, like I can touch the screen, I could draw
and write on the screen as opposed to this [the laptop]. I’m not a good typer, I’m a very bad
typer so most of the time I’d rather do it on an interactive screen than typing things out.”
JC: “Ohhh that makes sense, okay. So what patterns do you notice in your activities and the
role that your device plays in them?”
PP: “A lot of the times I use my iPad as my entertainment, and sometime educational study, like
I could go onto the internet and search up something, but for references, I use it mainly for
entertainment and stuff like that.”
JC: “And what important activities are not reflected in the information on your device.”
PP: “What do you mean important information?”
JC: “So like… I guess out of the activities that you do use on your iPad is there anything you
weren’t able to discuss before or, is there anything that is more hidden that this device doesn’t
really record.”
PP: “I’d say the iPad is pretty good for giving you a well-rounded activity to do and apps so at
the moment, doesn’t spark anything that I think I hide from you aside from the fact that I use it a
lot for entertainment and playing games, drawing and all things like that it’s a stress relieving
activity.”

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JC: “Next I’d like to ask you to look through your device and see what records you have of the
people that you were involved with in the past month, for example people you might contact in
your phone number, text messages, social media, etc. and while you’re looking through them,
please provide the role that these people play in your lives instead of their actual name.”
PP: “Well um, I use my iPad to often check my email as well, and that’s something that I do, as
well as one of the other things I do is facetiming my parents, my mom, my aunt, my uncle, from
you know different countries and so from different parts and so I use that more often. For my
social media, I don’t really have a social media or text messages on my iPad, that’s more of a
phone thing where I could quickly do it instead of tying it on such a huge screen, so most of the
time for social interactions on iPad I just use email and facetime, video call.”
JC: “Cool. So, the apps and programs you usually use to communicate with other people, you
said like facetime and Skype? Did you say Skype?”
PP: “Uhh facetime and email.”
JC: “On your iPad?”
PP: “Yeah.”
JC: “Okay, cool. And are there any patterns that you notice in your communications, and the
role that your device plays into these patterns you might notice?”
PP: “Well, for my iPad, you know, all my devices, I link to notifications which is kind of like if an
app has something new on it, like it needs an update, they notify me what it is, sometimes when
I play my games, I take care of like a stimulation games, and I take care of a thing or something
like that, like ‘Oh, your food is done’ or ‘your dish is done’ and it’s the same for YouTube, when
they have a new feed on YouTube they think I might be interested in, they’ll notify me and so is
my email, when there is a new email coming up, my iPad will notify me of the new email as
well.”
JC: “So that kind of helps you really answer it quickly because then you know that they reply to
you.”
PP: “Yea yea yea, notification yea it’s also the same for my cell phone for social media.”
JC: “How do you decide which mode of communication to use over the other like do you use
different kinds of apps for different kinds of situations or different people.”
PP: “I would say yea, but I’m not much of a poster, like you see someone who would write posts
and then post it on social media and stuff, most of the time I would just go in and check it and
see what people have in store, and sometimes if there is an event that is really important to me,
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the time I don’t really have a dedicated social platform to use, I would say aside from facetiming
my parents, I don’t really use text messages, I don’t really like to text people.”
JC: “Is there a reason you use facetime over emailing or calling them?”
PP: “I think it’s because when you face to face talking to people, you see clearer what the
connection is. When sometimes you write something, it’s more of a process, you want to make
your point clear, but if you talking then it’s more efficient and its faster and you’re able to see
how responsive they are, or if they care at all, and there’s more dynamic in your conversation
when you’re talking to people face to face rather than texting them, because you can’t see their
reaction.”
JC: “Right I definitely agree with that. And what important interactions are not recorded in the
information on your device?”
PP: “As I said before, like the other social media programs like Instagram and Snapchat, I have
it on my phone instead of my iPad and because my phone is smaller and much more portable, I
can just take it out of my pocket and search up stuff, whereas the iPad, it’s more of a hassle to
take it out and so there’s social media that I have on my phone instead of my iPad.”
JC: “Ok, so now I’d like to ask you to look through your device and see what records you have
of places you went during the past month. So, for example you might have records on your
calendar, or your mapping application, or in like location services, and if you’re able to find
them, what apps or programs if any have records of the places you’ve visited?”
PP: “Um, when I go places I don’t really take my iPad with me, like when I go and have fun with
my friends, of course I’m going to leave it at home because it’s quite a huge device I mainly use
my iPad when I’m at a home setting, or when I’m at a setting that is a sedentary place where I
do work or homework or just try to have entertainment, so when I go places I don’t take my iPad
with me, so records of where I go are not really available here. That’s a different story for my
phone, because my phone automatically through GPS records my travelling.”
JC: “Do you allow any apps to track your movement or permit location services on google maps
or something like that?”
PP: “Yea, um on my phone yes I allow it to track me but, on my iPad, I totally turned the tracking
location effects off.”
JC: “What do you think prompted you to make that choice?”
PP: “It’s because I don’t want to have multiple devices that have my location on, because it
could be very dangerous, you know people could just track “Oh, we found this” and it could very
dangerous for me, so I only try to have the one device to track my location so that there will not
be any dangerous situation where someone may just break in and so I only have my device

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track on my phone because I want to use the google maps, so that’s the only thing I use it for,
but otherwise I try to turn off the GPS because I don’t want people to find out where I am.”
JC: “So how did you first learn to navigate new locations.”
PP: “Well for me, basically there is an app that is already set up, which is google maps, and so
on my phone I could just like type the address on there and it automatically leads me to where it
is, so there’s not much of a process there aside from using the correct app to access location or
to show you where to go.”
JC: “And what important places or navigational practices are not reflected on your device?”
PP: “Uhh… O like I said I don’t use iPad for navigation, and so a lot of that isn’t available on my
iPad.”
JC: “Ok, cool. So, for this last section, I’d like to ask you to look through your device to see what
records you have of media you’ve used in the past month. So, for this section I’m mostly
interested in social media posts, texts, photos, tv shows and games that you might be reading
or listening to, watching or playing, or it may be something you yourself have created and
distributed, and these could be anything that you think you use on your iPad.”
PP: “Well, for my iPad, I have a lot of tabs on my chrome, on my internet app, mainly because I
use it to access like websites for reading manga, and watching anime, and also like reading
novels online, and so I do have a lot of tabs like that. As for watching various drama, so you can
see this is all my entertainment stuff, I don’t do things that are relevant to my school work really,
it’s just entertainment stuff.”
JC: “Kind of like a personal TV?”
PP: “Basically, like if I miss a show I can just get on my iPad really quick and you know, track
them. And other media that I used that I mentioned before are I like drawing on here, and so I
do also draw a lot on my iPad, I have a few arts on here which I drew using my iPad, a lot of
them are older than the others, but um recently I’ve been adding more stuff on this. I also use
this for drawings, and as you can see, there’s games scattered everywhere, now and then, but a
lot of these games I don’t really play, I just play one or two of them, but since my iPad has
storage I guess.”
JC: “That’s cool. Do you use a stylus for the drawing app?”
PP: “Yeah, I use a stylus for the drawing app. Yeah it’s attached to the case.”
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PP: “I would say that the media I create the most on my iPad is my drawings. Aside from that, I
don’t post on social media on here, I don’t have the app on my iPad, so most of the time I will
just draw and watch TV. It’s like you said, a personal tv and a personal drawing tablet for me.”
JC: “For TV do you mostly use safari, or YouTube, or Netflix?”
PP: “I use a lot of safari as well as YouTube, it’s because I don’t have a Netflix, so I don’t use
Netflix, but a lot of times I could just find what I want to watch on websites that support safari.”
JC: “And why do you prefer one app or program over another?”
PP: “It depends on my mood, and on what I want to do that day, really. Sometimes I don’t feel
tired, maybe I’ll just watch something really quick and you know, go to sleep or do something
else. Or maybe one day I’m like ‘ooh, I feel like I want to do this, so let me watch something on
this’, you know it really depends on my mood and I can’t say that my mood is stable, from time
to time, and so yea, it really depends.”
JC: “So can you give me some examples of media that are especially significant for you?”
PP: “Yeah, I would say that the most meaningful to me is my drawing programs, because I
spend a lot of effort on every single art, so if you delete them, that’s like at least 10 hours that I
spent on art drawing and so I would say that I would not want my iPad to be stolen or anything
like that because all my drawings are on there and it would be detrimental for me since I cannot
back it up, so it would be very sad.”
JC: “Do you like drawing? Is it your hobby?”
PP: “Yea, I love drawing. Drawing is like my hobby, and um actually the main reason why I got
my stylus and my iPad is for drawing. Yea, it’s because I have trouble drawing using like a
separate tablet and then a tablet to attach it to a desktop or computer, and so it’s because I feel
like it would be nicer if you could actually do it kind of like you’re drawing on a piece of paper,
and the iPad with its interactive screen allows me to do that, and so it’s similar to the traditional
drawing techniques and so I prefer it and so that’s why I bought my iPad, for my love for
drawing, pretty much.”
JC: “Ooo I see. So what patterns do you notice in your media use?”
PP: “The patterns is that I guess there’s just for entertainment only, so there doesn't’ really like
anything that the main thing that I pretty much do on my iPad is just for entertainment, like
watching TV, watching clips, drawing or playing games and that’s it. I don't’ really use it for any
other stuff aside from entertainment.”
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PP: “I share it through pretty much the share button (laughs) and things you know like
sometimes when I draw art, I will share it through emails, export it as a JPG or PNG, share it
through email, and that’s pretty much it, I don’t really share any other things aside from that.”
JC: “And can you tell me any strategies you may have for protecting your privacy with your
media usage?”
PP: “As I told you, I turn off my location device and you know when I’m using so that my location
will not be exposed and sometimes I also use VPN as well to protect my privacy and get me
anonymity. As well as I use passcode lock on my iPad like fingerprint and passcode to ensure
that an unidentifiable person and walks in and took my iPad won’t use my information. Plus, I
don’t have any important information on my iPad so like all the accounts that I have, there’s no
such things that any of the banking accounts related to me on this iPad, so I don't use it for that
so most of the time it’s just for entertainment and nothing else.”
JC: “Okay, and are there any other media in your life that aren’t reflected in the device?”
PP: “Umm. Yea, I like to go to the movies and you know when I play video games, sometimes I
don’t play it on my iPad I play it on y console like the 3DS or PS4 and so that wasn’t on my iPad
and you know I love to go to the movie theater to watch the latest movies, and of course my
iPad won’t have the newest thing on there, and for newspaper and magazines, that’s something
I read on my phone, like I go on fox news pages and read it there, but I don’t really read it on my
iPad, as I’ve been reiterating many times, I only use my iPad for entertainment.”
JC: “And in this final section, I’d like you to reflect the history on your device and the apps
you’ve shared with me, focusing on how you’ve learned to use your device and the apps that
you use in the way that you currently do. So, one question I have to start off is how did you start
using digital technologies and how do you think your relationship with it has changed over
time?”
PP: “Ok, so this brings back to a long time ago. I did not have access to digital devices in my
childhood until the age 8, that was when I immigrated to America, and I left my country of
Vietnam, which is a developing country, and so when I get over here, technology is more
prominent that it is in Vietnam. And even in school system, I’d say that the first exposure that I
got to digital technology was pretty much through education, and you know how teachers use
computers already, and projectors, and various digital technologies to teach students, and so
building off that experience, I also when I first came here, I also had a desktop at home, and so
a lot of my experiences are really through that desktop, and I didn’t really start to learn how to
use it until I was eight or nine or so, but most of the time I would just use it to play games,
browsing, you know what kids like to do when I was young. And it's not until like in the 2010 or
2012 that I got my first iPad, which was an iPad 3, and I kept my iPad3 for a long time, about 4
or 5 years until I updated and got an iPad Pro, and so yea I got this one recently, but then my
experience of using the iPad came from the iPad 3 but the interface are really similar, there’s
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similarities like your phone, your laptop, they all have symbols which allow you to recognize
what it is, and pretty much they have text like descriptions of how to use it, like when you start
an app, when you don’t know how to use it, there’s usually a tutorial teaching you how to use it.
And some of it is pretty much what people call common sense, like if you grow up with it, you’re
going to know how to do it without much hassle, and so even though I wasn’t exposed much to
technology in Vietnam, but it’s because I came here when I was still a young child, so
technology wasn’t such a wide gap for me to fill in.”
JC: “And of the activities that you’ve described so far, what do you think was the most complex
for you to learn?”
PP: “I would say my drawing programs. That’s totally another world.”
JC: “What do you think made it so complex?”
PP: “I think that the complexity came from the user and not the program itself. The program is
fairly simple. If you want to draw something, there are a different assortment of brushes. You
may not understand the terminology, but let’s just imagine that you use pencils, brushes,
watercolor brush, this kind of brush and that for traditional, so on the drawing program, it’s the
same, they also have brush, but it’s kind of like an intangible aspect because you’re using your
stylus for everything, and so I have to really learn how to use and how to apply the correct
techniques, and I think that it’s a really complex thing, not because of the program is complex,
it’s because of how to use it and how to apply it is complex.”
JC: “So what kind of context do you use this activity for, is it professional or academic, etc.?”
PP: “I would say like for all of them, you know, if I want to build a professional portfolio I would
do it, as well using a program to build a professional art portfolio, I could just draw it because it’s
a hobby of mine and it’s fun, and of course it could be academic, because you know if you take
an art class and your main media is digital illustration, then yea that could be your academic
piece.”
JC: “So it’s kind of like you could use it for anything, really.”
PP: “Yeah.”
JC: “Okay, and can you tell me about when and how you learned to complete these complex
activities?”
PP: “This took me a year or so to learn how to actually draw digitally, I’d say if I were to transfer
my skills from this device to another one, it’s umm would be somewhat of a change, but I still
retain that knowledge you know, like for me how I learned this was mostly through experience,
like the more you use it the more you get used to it, and the more you get used to it, the better
you get every time.”

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JC: “And do you think like transitioning from drawing on your iPad Pro to drawing on paper, is it
different or is it very similar?”
PP: “I feel like it is very similar, but there are resources that cannot be replaced. Like on the
iPad Pro, you could easily have colors applied just at the click of your fingertip, but when you’re
drawing on a piece of paper, you have to have your resources available to you, like oh, you
have to buy color pencils, or you have to buy watercolor, and you have to use this brush, dip it
to this color palette, you know there’s more of a process if you use it that way.”
JC: “And can you tell me about any activities you wish you knew how to complete with your
device?”
PP: “Hmm… Right now, I don’t really have an activity that I’m really bad at that I need to learn to
do better, I’d say I’m always striving to improve myself in the digital illustration, and that’s like
the main thing, but aside from that, the activities are pretty simple and it doesn't pose problems
to me, I can just navigate it out.”
JC: “Do you think that drawing is always going to be a personal thing like a hobby you have, or
do you think that you could see yourself possibly doing art professionally in the future?”
PP: “Yeah, I definitely could see myself doing art, but as a side or a minor, it’s because for me,
I’m a slow artist, it takes me forever to think about an idea to come up with and actually apply it,
and so for me, it’s not going to be my main profession, but it will be something that I do for a
lifelong time. As a hobby, or anything that I want, of course my mind is subject to change, and
so having a hobby really for now, for me, I guess it’s just a hobby.”
JC: “What do you think you could improve on in art and digital design?”
PP: “I think there are a variance of things. Like, since digital perspective is intangible, it’s not
something you can touch really, so there is that barrier, and because of that, you need to be
really good at manipulating and maneuvering your programs really. For me, I’m still pretty new
at photoshop, and there's features on the photoshop program that I struggle to understand, like
why is like this, why is it like that, so for me I would wish to learn more about the program itself,
and how to use them because computer software and programs can be very complex and
complicated, and unless you practice it or have a niche in it, then you don’t really understand
the use of it.”
JC: “Right. Do you think that one of the reasons is because you don’t really use photoshop, so
you don’t really feel the need to learn it as much, or what do you think?”
PP: “I would say it’s because I’m fairly new as a digital artist at digital design, I only have about
a year of experience, and so there’s still much time for me to figure out how to use the
programs. I would say that using the device itself isn’t complex, it’s the programs that really

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pose a problem because different types of programs have different features and that’s really
what makes it tiresome to learn.”
JC: “And do you feel that you have the digital skills to operate effectively in a professional
context?”
PP: “Yes.”
JC: “How so, can you tell me about how you’re gauging that?”
PP: “It’s because as a student in the contemporary world, everything is facilitated through digital
technology. Like, when teachers tell you to write an essay, unless it’s an essay in class, you
really going to type it on the computer and revise it from there, rather than writing it handwritten
and you know when you handwrite things it could get messy, and sometimes teachers cannot
read your handwriting, and there are many factors that associate with that. And so, you know in
educational system nowadays, the implementation of digital technology is so prominent, that of
course the student has to learn how to use it. And even so, when you go to the workforces, it’s
also the same concept. People teach you how to use certain programs to complete certain
tasks, and so as long as you have the basic understanding of what technology is and how to
use technology, how to at least type on a computer, I think you could really thrive.”
JC: “What about in your personal context?”
PP: “For my own personal use, I would say yes, I do have enough knowledge about how to use
this. There are times when I still need to learn a bit longer, but that’s for something new that I
haven’t tried before.”
JC: “What about in a civic or public context?”
PP: “Um In a civic or a public context, it’s like social media, really, aside from watching the
news, reading the news, listening to the radio and posting on social media, I don’t really see that
I have trouble with those kinds of things because it’s very common nowadays, it’s very
straightforward”
JC: “And how would you describe someone who is digital literacy?”
PP: “I would say someone who is digitally literate is someone who knows how to navigate
through the digital technology interface.”
JC: “And would you consider yourself digitally literate?”
PP: “Yes I could do a lot of things and there’s different types of literacy really, but I could
navigate through my own device without asking people 'Oh my gosh' help me how do you do
this I can at least follow the instructions.”

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JC: “Mhmm, and how do you think you learned to be digitally literate?”
PP: “Um it’s just using it over and over again and getting the experience. At first, you’re like ‘oh
my gosh, typing is so hard’, but after you type for a while, you start to pick it up, like your brain
has muscle memories and is able to recognize it, and so just using it over and over again, you
know, keeping on being exposed to it, you pretty much could learn it without any problems.”
JC: “Is there anything else that you would like me to know, or is there anything that I did not ask
and should have asked?”

PP: “At this rate, I don’t think so.”
JC: “Ok, cool thank you!”

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Archive	of	Personal	Digital	History	
	
Interview	#9	–	Post-1980	Birthdate	
	
September	21,	2018	
Introduction
The following is an oral interview with Aspen Nightingale1, a Caucasian, transgender man from
Louisiana. He is 18 years old, and currently a first-year student at Oxford College of Emory
University. The interview was conducted by a Caucasian female from Florida, also a first-year
at Emory’s Oxford campus.
This project is intended to be an exploration of the past and present digital experiences of a
research subject, by asking them to take the interviewer on a tour of a device of their choosing.
Interview

00:00
Hello, Aspen, how are you?
00:04
Good.
00:05
Excellent. So, right as I'm about to begin this interview, I would like to ask you to take me on
a guided tour of a digital device that is particularly significant for you, and something that
you use routinely, like your phone, your laptop, et cetera. So, if the device enables it, I
would like you to review records of your activities during the past month, like calendar
entries, text messages, phone calls, things of that nature. And, discuss with me the people
you interact with, the places you go, and the ways you use media and communication
technologies. So, before we begin, I would also like to issue a quick disclaimer that you may
decide what to comment on and what to ignore, depending on what makes you comfortable,
and you can decide if you want to share an example with me by showing it to me. You
should only share examples of what- of things that you feel comfortable sharing. And, also
please don't share information about anything illegal- if you have anything incriminating on
your device, I don't need to know about it, or information that would compromise the privacy
of somebody else in your life who was unable to give consent for this interview. So, it would

1

Names have been changed.

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be much pre- more preferable if you could refer to them as a coworker or a family member if
you're referring about actual people. So, before you begin, do we have any questions?
01:34
Nope, I'm good.
01:36
Do you mind if I take a picture of your device?
01:39
Yes, you can take a picture.
Interviewer fumbles to take a picture.
01:49
Thank you.
01:52
To start, I'd like to ask to look through your device, or, to have you look through your device,
to see what records you have of the activities you were involved with during the last month
or so. Places you could look for this would perhaps be a calendar app, a to do list,
invitations to events, all that sort of stuff. So, my first question to you is- what apps or
programs, if any, do you plan to- do you use, to plan, coordinate, or record your activities?
02:19
Ummm, so I have02:20
Oh wait, shoot, let's go back... let's backtrack a minute, I totally missed a question here. Tell
me about why you chose this device?
02:28
Ummm, I picked this- I picked my phone because I do everything on it, and before I had a
laptop, because I haven't had one for that long, it basically functioned as my computer, so if
you wanna know- and my- I don't do anything but schoolwork on my laptop, so it's not
gonna show up anything but schoolwork, so if you wanna know how I actually use
technology, it would have to be on my phone.
02:50
Great. Now, what apps or programs, if any, do you use to plan, coordinate, or record your
activities?

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02:57
Ummm, my main one is Google Calendar and the Apple Calendar, except I kinda use them
for separate things. Google Calendar is mainly for college, um, things, so if you look at it it's
gonna be just, all my classes laid out and all my teachers' work hours, all the things I have
to do related to college
03:20
Mhm
03:21
But if you go to my Apple Calendar, that's more like birthdays and anniversaries, or like,
things that are happening outside of like, professional stuff, so that just keeps it so I know
what's happening, and what's important, and what's mandatory. Ummm, I used to have a- a
little notetaker, umm thing that would let you do like bullet-point notes, but I ended up
deleting it because I would make a list and I'd never look at it again so it didn't matter if I
made a list because it didn't remind me anything. Now I just stick sticky notes all over my
room.
03:59
Whatever works, right? So, based on what you're looking at now, can you give me a little bit
of information on your main activities? What you spend your life doing.
04:12
Umm, I mean, based on my calendar, you would think the only thing I did was collegeschoolwork. I have classes Monday through Friday, and I work Monday, Tuesdays,
Thursdays, and Fridays, and that's all on my calendar, and that's about it, so based on this,
I do nothing but work.
04:35
Interviewer chuckles. But, sort of what patterns do you notice in these activities? Obviously,
you just said school and work seem to be the majority, but deviating a little from the
calendars that you use to sort of organize your school life and your professional life, I would
call it, what do you, what do you do for fun, and sort of how is that reflected on your phone?
05:04
Ummm, I mean, things that I do for fun wouldn't be found on my calendar, because usually
after I'm out of class, and about a couple- I mean, no, not a couple hours, about around
10:00 is when I'm done doing homework, and so that time spent either with my friends or
doing stuff like that, but that's never on the calendar unless I'm planning like a very specific
date with my friends for like, going to Pride, or going to a movie this day, so none of that
would be reflected on my calendar, but umm, just hanging out with my friends or like, this
weekend I'm going to Atlanta, none of that would be on my calendar.

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05:45
Okay. And, I believe by answering that, you sort of covered that other question of 'what
important activities are not reflected in the information on your device?', your social life,
from what I'm gathering. Great.

05:58
So, next I'm going to ask you to look through your device a little bit more, and see if you
have any sort of trail of the people you were involved with the last month, so, records of
people you contacted or who contacted you, phone records, texts, emails, social media
interactions, Skype and FaceTime calls, ummm, I'm going to remind you one more time to
use roles or relationship names rather than people's proper names for this step.

06:27
So, what apps or programs, if any, do you use to communicate in these ways?
06:32
Umm, so kinda depends on who I'm talking to, but my main communication is gonna
happen on Snapchat, that's where you're gonna find, well, I mean, you aren't gonna find
much 'cause it deletes everything, but that's where you're gonna see most of the record of
who I'm talking to. If you want an actual paper trail, it would be in my text messages,
because I hardly delete them, 'cause I don't use them that much. And then, I also use
Instagram a lot to keep up with group chats and friends, and so those are probably my main
ones, in the past month I might've used Facebook Messenger, but just not gonna be very
often, so there probably won't be much there... and then my emails, I use, ummm, daily, I
check my emails daily, and I end up sending emails daily, so those are really popular for
professional communications.
07:25
Cool. Ummm, so what sort of patterns do you notice in your communication and the role
your device plays in it? Ummm, so, for that sort of question, I'm sort of asking: do you see
anything noticeable that helps you decide which modes of communication you prefer to use
over another, or ummm, what really sticks out for you in terms of, ummm, sort of a trail, per
se?
08:02
Ummm, I mean, if you look at it, if someone's my age, I'm not gonna have, like, text
message from them, it's gonna be on Snapchat, so anyone that, so overall my age I'm
gonna use Snapchat for, unless it's something like, I need an immediate response on, then
you'll see, like, a text of, 'quick, like, I need your response right now', or I'll call them. But,

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unless it's something important, most of my communication's gonna be on Snapchat, unless
it's like, family, I talk to my family on text, or, like, old who's in there I'll text message or
email. And then, Instagram is not mostly conversations, it's just pictures or things we've
seen on Instagram, so there's not many conversations, but it's only kids, only people that
are my age, so I don't really talk to adults on Instagram either.
09:01
Mhm. Ummm, and then what important interactions with people are not reflected in
information on your device, is there anything that we've left out?
09:11
Ummm, I mean I would say you wouldn't be able to find, like, me and my friends hanging
out on it, but I mean, you wouldn't be able to find it with them on, but within 24 hours, you
would be able to see it if you saw it on my Snapchat, because I put things on my story a lot,
or, so most of my interactions are through my device, especially now that I'm away from
home, 'cause it used to be that, like any interaction with my family wouldn't be on my phone,
'cause I don't put that on my phone, but now that I'm not with them, any interaction with
them is gonna be through my calls or through my text messages. Yeah, I don't think that
there's anything really about communication that's not reflected here.
09:55
Great! So, now I'm going to ask you to look through your device once again, and see what
sort of records you have of the places you've been during the past month. So, records of
places on your calendar, Google Maps, location services if you happen to have it enabled,
and sort of things like that, ummm, so what apps or programs, if any, have these sorts of
records?
10:20
Ummm, well my location services stays off, so not many do, I think the only app that has
access to my location is Snapchat, and that's because to make filters work you have to,
ummm, but I mean if you go to my Snapchat a lot of times there'll- my- so- you have access
to Snap Maps now, where you can look at where everyone's at, mine is turned off so you
won't be able to see where- where anyone decides won't be able to see, but a lot of times
they'll tag the pictures you take with the thing, so if you go to my pictures you can see 'taken
at Oxford, GA', 'taken in Covington, GA', 'taken in Atlanta', or like, last night there was
pictures of me and my friends at Olive Garden, so that's a, ummm, that's a tag for where I'm
at geologically, ummm, there's not many things that are allowed to keep track of my
location, so other than Snapchat, nothing else will have records. I think sometimes photos in
Apple will tag your photos where they were taken, if you click on it maybe, I don't know,
sometimes they keep track of where you take it places, let's see. Umm, I have 290 photos
that- alright, never mind, I have 10 photos that were taken in Disney World, 280 in
Louisiana, 8 in New York, I took way more in New York, so that's not right, ummm, but you

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can get kind of a preview of where I've been, or where I've taken pictures, and that's about
it.

11:59
Cool. Ummm, let's see here, ummm, do you use any apps or programs to check into
places?
12:12
Ummm, I have a Chick-Fil-A app, and I check into that when I go to Chick-Fil-A, I get,
ummm, coupons, I have a MoviePass app which requires you to check in when you get
there, it, ummm, says, like, 'you're here', or whatever, and you have to click it to check in
and get your ticket. Uhhhh, I have a parking app that gets you parking spots in cities for
pretty cheap called SpotHere, so I have to check in when I'm in that place, and that's about
it.
12:45
Excellent. So, how did you first learn to navigate new locations, such as reading maps,
memorizing landmarks, I know that's a bit of a break from the technology side of things, but
if you could give me a quick answer on that, that would be great.
13:05
I mean, in, like, second grade, I think my school introduced how to read a map? I never
used that information in my life, but they taught 'ya how to read one. But I mean, by the time
I needed to navigate anywhere new, I had a cell phone that had smart capabilities so
usually I would just Google a route and l would just look along briefly, just to see what I had
to do beforehand, and then just follow it, til then with Siri's help.
13:33
And, is there anything that we have not discussed yet, places or navigational practices that
we've not really touched on yet?
13:41
Mmmm, I don't think so.
13:44
Great. So, in this last section, I'm going to ask you to look through your device to see what
records you have of the media you used during the last month, so this is going to be a pretty
big section, because it incorporates social media posts, texts, photos, music, videos, TV
shows, movies, games, all the entertainment that you would interact with on your phone.

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So, based on what you see on your device, what apps or programs do you use the most to
access or produce media?

14:13
Uhh, I mean, let's see, give me a second, where is the battery section, that'll tell you. Wait
'til it loads. Well, according to my battery, in the last seven days, Snapchat is used the most
amount of battery, then Tumblr, then Pandora, then Instagram, then Safari, YouTube, and
all these background things, like calling people or whatever. But, in the past seven days,
those are the majority of my battery and that's pretty accurate to my month.
14:53
Mhm. And, why do you prefer one app or program over another?

14:59
Umm, I use Snapchat the most because that's what I use to keep in track with my partner in
Louisiana, and all my friends back in Louisiana, um, so that's my connection back to my
friends in Louisiana, um, I use Tumblr probably next second, just because if I'm bored, it
has the most amount of data to scroll through endlessly- and it never ends. Ummm, hmmm,
Instagram and Pandora, I mean, Pandora was used because I've been working this week,
and so I- umm, a lot of my work in umm, my job, you do it alone, so you can play music and
stuff, because it's a lot of umm, individual work. And then, Instagram's probably the next
one, because after Tumblr, that's the best one to waste time on, ummm, my YouTube used
to be a lot higher, if you looked at it before I came to college, it probably would've been
second or first on the list, but now, if I have free time, I- I'm not gonna be able to look on
YouTube because one of my friends is probably in my room, and being a bother, so I don't
have time to get on YouTube anymore, or Netflix, would've been a lot higher, if you looked
at it before I came to college.
16:18
Interesting. So, do you have any media that's especially significant to you, or have we
already sort of touched on that with your love of Snapchat, and Tumblr, and16:29
I mean, YouTube and Tumblr were kinda the place that ummm, are kinda the biggest
platforms for the queer community, so, like outside of being able to talk to people like I
already knew YouTube and Tumblr were the place that gave me access to people I- I didn't
know already, and that had, ummm, either related to me over like, things we could talk
about, like shows we watched, you can find a lot of stuff like that on Tumblr and YouTube,

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or they shared some of the same identities, like being queer, ummm, so those two platforms
were very big in getting into the queer community for me.

17:10
That's a very special thing. Ummm, so, can you give me some examples of media that
you've produced and altered in some way? Do you make any films, do you do anything like
that?
17:24
Ummm, no, ummm, I'm usually not a creator, that much, I just like to use it, ummm, on
Instagram you can find pictures I've drawn, but I don't draw digital- digitally yet, even though
I'm thinking about getting into that, but you can find, like, drawings I've made, and posted,
or, ummm, that Instagram's probably where I post the most, even though I haven't posted in
awhile, so, it's the only place I'm really a creator on.

17:54
Cool. So, tell me your strategy for storing your media? How do you go about that?
18:03
Ummmm, well, every couple weeks I'll go through my photos and delete all the stuff that's
not pictures of, like, me and my friends, and then, like, screenshots of books or something
that I don't need anymore, so I'll clear that out like once a month, and that'll save up a lot of
space, uh, I don't keep music, really, on my phone, I only have like two albums downloaded
onto my phone, and I bought those awhile back, ummm, uhhh, most of my apps, I don't,
like, group my apps into things, like some people, so they kinda just stay where I put them,
ummmm, other than that, uh, I clear out my Safari very often, and my text messages, I'll go
through and clear out like once a week, just to keep everything organized. I delete irrelevant
emails immediately, and then I usually don't go back and clean out my emails, I'll save
everything that I think is important.
19:03
Cool. Ummm, and how about sharing media? How do you share your media with others, if
at all?
19:11
If I share media with someone it's gonna be on Instagram, usually, you can forward a post
to someone else through there, ummm, sometimes you can take screenshots of posts and
send them to my friends, though not very often, but every once in awhile I'll do that. That's
about it.

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19:28
And, how about protecting your privacy with media usage? Is there any specific way that
you do that?
19:34
Uhh, I mean, it depends on the platform, on Snapchat I only allow people that I know to
follow me, so my Snapchat is ummm, I'm not sure if it's private, but like, you can't follow me
without permission, so only people I know follow my Snapchat. On Instagram, my account's
private, and I let people I don't know follow it, but I also, like, I go through and make sure
what they are and who they are before they follow me on my Instagram, which is private,
because it has my actual name on it. Ummm, my Tumblr, I don't have any safety
precautions on it, because it doesn't have my name, or any pictures, or anything personal,
it's just whatever I've reblogged, I've never actually put any content on it. So, it just depends
on what I'm on. YouTube, that has my name, but I don't make videos, and I'm pretty sure
my account's private, so that keeps it, ummm, protected.
20:29
And, is there anything that has not been reflected thus far in this section?
20:37
Oh, I did forget, I have a, ummm, I have an app called DashLane that stores all of your
passwords and stuff behind a lock, like, behind a master code, so that stores all of my
passwords, and keeps them in one spot, behind a, umm, behind a lock, kind of, so that
keeps them safe.
20:58
Ummm, and apparently, that 'final section' was not the final section, so we have one more
to go. So, in this section, I would like you to reflect on your history with the device, and the
apps that you've shared with me, focusing how you learned to use them in the way that you
currently do. So, I'm just going to ask this first overarching question and see if we can cut
down on the amount of explaining we have to do for the rest of these, but- how did you start
using digital technology, and sort of how was your relationship changed?
21:35
Ummm, I mean, I think that at like, eight or nine, my grandparents got a really old desktop,
and brought it inside, erm, 'cause they have an accounting business, and so they got one of
the old ones that they couldn't use it anymore, gave it to us kids, but it didn't have access to
the internet or anything, it just had like two games on it, ummm, pool and solitaire, probably,
I think those are the two games, so that was kinda my first time using anything that hadthat could've used internet, even though it didn't have internet....ummm, and then maybe,
twelve, was when I first got my first mobile phone, that's also about the time I opened a

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Facebook, which was like my first social media, and even though that went away pretty
quickly, I only used Facebook for like a year at the most, ummm, that was kinda my first
pinpoint with social media, ummm, and then I didn't really do much in between being twelve
and fourteen, but, um, when I was fourteen I opened an Instagram, a Tumblr, and some
other accounts, like a Netflix, a Hulu, YouTube, I opened basically all my, um, social medias
around the time I was fourteen, I didn't open a Snapchat until I was, like, sixteen, or
something, I didn't use that very often. And, so that was kinda where everything started,
ummm, I used to use them less, because, um, when I was younger, most of my friends
went to my school, and I saw them daily, so I didn't need to use my phone that often, I didn't
need a social media. By the time I started high school I had some online friends, I had some
friends that I saw at school, but I also started to have the freedom to go outside the school
with my friends, so having a social media was the way to plan those things, or having text
message was the way to plan outside events, so I've started using it more, the older I've
gotten.

23:37
Interesting. So, of the activities you've described, which were the most complex for you to
learn, if any at all?
23:52
I mean, none of the apps, the apps are set up to be very self-explanatory, 'cause they're
meant for you to use them, they weren't made to be complicated, um, I mean I guess,
getting used to using Google Calendar and some of the other organizational apps took
effort, not because the actual apps are, ummm, difficult, but because I needed to get into
the habit of them, but I think, I don't think any of the other ones showed any problems.
24:23
Okay. And, can you tell me about activities that you wished you knew how to complete with
your device? Is there anything with your device that you don't know how to do that you wish
you knew how to do?
24:41
Ummm, with the iPhones, not really, you don't really have much of a- they aren't- like
Samsungs are built like mini-computers, so you can do a lot of things on them, that, like, if
you know how to use it, you can like, hack- do all kinds of stuff sometimes, but Apples are
meant to be very user-friendly and very simple, there's nothing on my iPhone that I need to
do, or that I've ever needed to do that I can't do.
25:09
And, building on that question, do you feel you have the skills necessary digitally to operate
effectively in a professional context?

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25:19
Umm, yeah, I had to- in high school, I had to take an IBCE course, and learn how to type
correctly, learn how to use, um, Excel, Microsoft, all the Microsoft programs, basically I'm
certified in them, umm, I know how to manage my emails and how to basically do anything
you'd need to do for a job, unless I got a job programming, but I don't know anything about
programming, so I doubt that would happen.
25:55
Okay, and how would you describe somebody who is 'digitally literate'?
26:03
Umm, someone who is 'digitally literate', ummm, can both understand the apps they already
use, and be able to quickly catch on to a new app, or a new system, if it's set up within a
similar way.
26:21
And, would you consider yourself digitally literate, by that definition?
26:26
Yes.
26:29
And, how did you learn to be digitally literate, or ummm, yeah, please just elaborate on that
a little bit more.
26:40
Umm, I mean, it was mostly just trial and error, getting your first iPhone or getting your first
computer, and just going around and clicking everything, until you knew where everything
was at, and then after, I mean, after you have that first phone, or first computer or laptop,
most systems are set up in basically the same ways, like, every laptop is going to have a
settings button, and all settings buttons are gonna include basically the same design. Just
like, it may look different or be in a slightly different position, and like, the internet's always
gonna be kind of in the same spot, like, everything's gonna be set up in the same way, you
just have to find, like, the similarities, because most systems aren't that different.
27:22
And, is there, and finally, is there anything else that you would like me to know?
27:28
Um, no, I think we covered all the bases, basically,

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27:33
Well, in that case, thank you very much for the informative interview, Mr. Nightingale, it was
lovely to get to know you and your device.
27:41
Thank you.

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Interview	#12	–	Pre-1980	Birthdate	
September	2018	
Technology	is	changing	rapidly	and	with	it	comes	the	changing	of	people	and	how	they	carry	
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MC:	Tell	me	about	why	you	chose	your	computer.		
POS:	Because	it's	what	I	do	most	of	my	work	on.		
MC:	Okay.	What	apps	or	programs,	if	any	do	you	use	to	plan,	coordinate,	or	record	your	activities?		
POS:	sighs.	I	use	the	calendar,	um,	I	certainly	use	YouTube	a	lot.	I	know	that's	not	an	app	per	se.		
MC:	But	it's	a	program.		
POS:	Yeah,	it's	a	program.	YouTube.	Uhm.	And	you're	talking	specifically	as	it	relates	to	work?	
MC:	Anything	in	general.		
POS:	Okay,	so	um,	Facebook	...	
MC:	You're	on	Facebook?	That's	very	modern.		
POS:	chuckles.	Well	I'm	not	antiquated.	laughs.	Um,	what	else?	And	then	you	know	for	all	my	
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MC:	What	are	your	main	activities?	I	think	you	already	answered	this.	
POS:	Mostly	for	professional	reasons.	Papers	for	professional	conferences,	PowerPoint,	um,	and	
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MC:	What	patterns	do	you	notice	in	your	activities	and	the	role	your	device	plays	in	them?		
POS:	Well,	again,	they	support	my	professional	life.		
MC:	What	important	activities	are	not	reflected	on	your	device?	
POS:	Meditation.		
MC:	Do	you	use	a	meditation	app?	
POS:	No.	Actually	spending	time	with	families	and	friends.	Um,	I	typically	do	not	get	my	news	from	a	
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2:35	
MC:	Next	I'd	like	to	ask	you	to	look	through	your	device	to	see	what	records	you	have	of	people	you	
were	involved	with	in	the	past	month.	For	example,	you	might	have	records	of	people	you	have	
contacted	or	who	have	contacted	you.	please	provide	roles	or	relationship	names.		
POS:	I	would	say	students.	and	of	course,	I	use	Canvas.		
MC:	I	like	how	your	canvas	messages	are	always	so	colorful.		
POS:	Oh	yeah,	well	I	like	to	mix	it	up.		
MC:	What	patterns	do	you	notice	in	your	communication	and	the	role	your	device	plays	in	it.		
POS:	Well	again,	emails	from	students	requesting	appointments,	asking	questions,	preparations	for	
quizzes,	questions	about	that.	and	I	do	a	lot	of	work	on	canvas.		
MC:	How	do	you	decide	which	mode	of	communication	to	use	over	the	other?	
POS:	What	do	you	mean	in	terms	of	the	computer?	
MC:	Like	do	you	use	specific	ways	to	contact	people	depending	on	the	person	or	situation?	
POS:	I	almost	always	use	email.	very	rarely	use	iMessaging.	I	do	sometimes.	
MC:	What	important	interactions	with	people	are	not	reflected	in	information	on	your	device?	
POS:	On	your	device?	Say	it	again.	
MC:	What	important	interactions	with	people	are	not	reflected	on	your	device?	So	for	example,	you	
might	call	your	daughter	a	lot	but	that's	not	reflected	on	the	computer.		
POS:	Oh,	right,	right.	That's	why	I	asked.	On	the	computer	or	not.	If	it's	not	on	the	computer	than	
yes,	phone	conversations,	and	just	eyeball	to	eyeball	conversations.		
Both:	chuckles.		
	
4:36	
MC:	Okay	now	I	would	like	to	ask	you	about	records	of	places	you	have	to	in	the	past	month.	For	
example,	you	might	have	records	of	places	on	your	calendar,	in	mapping	applications	such	as	google	
maps,	etc.		
POS:	I	certainly	use	those	apps.	I	use	Waze,	I	use	google,	what	was	the	first	thing	you	asked	about?	
MC:	Records	of	places	you	have	on	your	calendar?	
POS:	And	calendar,	I	use	my	calendar.		

�MC:	What	patterns	do	you	notice	about	the	places	you	visit	and	your	movement	from	place	to	
place?	
POS:	On	the	computer?		
MC:	Yeah,	on	the	computer.		
POS:	Okay,	I	would	say	I’m	pretty	solid	with	emails	and	Facebook	when	I’m	bored.	chuckles.		
MC:	Okay,	how	did	you	first	learn	to	navigate	new	locations?	
POS:	Can	you	give	me	an	example?	Like	if	I'm	trying	to	use	the	calendar?	Is	that	what	you're	asking?	
MC:	I	guess	if	you	were	to	travel	to	a	different	country,	like	you're	going	on	vacation,	how	would	
you	navigate	the	area?	
POS:	So,	this	is	not	the	computer	then?	I	think	you	mean	the	navigation	on	the	computer.		
MC:	So,	do	you	plan	ahead	like	make	an	itinerary	ahead	of	time	on	the	computer?		
POS:	This	is	not	clear	to	me.			
MC:	Okay,	we	can	skip.		
POS:	Okay,	okay	
MC:	What	important	places	or	navigational	practices	are	not	reflected	in	information	on	your	
device?	
POS:	Alright,	tell	me	what	you	mean	by	place.	I	don't	know	if	you	mean	places	as	in	apps	on	the	
computer	or	places	in	my	world.		
MC:	Places	in	your	world.		
POS:	Oh,	then	maybe	you	should	go	back	to	the	question,	the	proceeding	question.		
MC:	How	did	you	first	learn	to	navigate	new	locations?	
POS:	Oh,	okay.	Um,	well	I	don't	know.	I	mean	it	goes	back	to	when	I	was	learning	how	to	drive,	and	
we	certainly	didn't	have	google	maps	and	we	didn't	have	a	computer,	so	I	couldn't	go	online	to	get	
directions	from	the	computer.	Just	through	verbal	instructions	from	people.		
MC:	What	important	places	or	navigational	practices	are	not	reflected	on	your	computer?	So,	I	
guess	you	said	you	use	Waze	and	google	maps	to	go	from	place	to	place?	
POS:	Mhm.		
	
7:25	
MC:	The	last	set	of	questions	is	about	entertainment	so	like	Netflix	and	movies.	What	apps	or	
program	do	you	use	most	to	access	or	produce	media?	

�POS:	Well	I	use	iTunes	and	I	use,	um,	YouTube	and	then	of	course	we	have	the	capacity	to	stream	
videos	as	faculty	members	like	today	i	am	showing	a	streamed	documentary	to	my	psych	of	gender	
class	so.		
MC:	Can	you	give	me	some	examples	of	media	that	are	especially	significant	to	you?		
POS:	Well,	as	a	teacher,	I	use	a	lot	of	YouTube.	You	see	that	in	child	development.	um.	and	I	would	
say	streaming	documentaries	and	videos.		
MC:	Are	we	ever	going	to	get	a	chance	to	watch	the	documentary	on	our	syllabus?	
POS:	Probably	not.	but	I	can	make	it	available	and	you	get	it	through	our	library.		
MC:	What	patterns	do	you	notice	in	your	media	use?		
POS:	Well	I'm	not	sure	again	what	you're	asking.	I	use	YouTube,	I	use	iTunes,	I	use	streaming.		
MC:	How	do	you	store	your	media?	
POS:	For	classroom	purposes,	I	keep	the	link	on	PowerPoint	basically	and	on	my	jump	drive.		
MC:	What	are	some	ways	you	share	media	with	others?	so	like	with	canvas,	you	share	stuff	with	us.		
POS:	Yeah,	canvas.	and	of	course,	through	my	PowerPoints,	I	embed	videos	and	i	embed	a	lot	as	
you've	already	seen.	um,	so	i	would	say	that's	the	main	method	and	i	would	do	as	attachment	to	
friends	and	um	relatives,	videos	by	attachments.		
MC:	What	strategies	do	you	use	to	protect	your	privacy?	
POS:	I	just	use	the	standard	virus	protection	program	and	I	have	lots	of	passwords	-	lots	of	different	
passwords.		
MC:	chuckles	That's	good.	What	important	media	is	not	reflected	in	your	device?	I	think	you	
mentioned	before	you	listen	to	the	radio	-	
POS:	For	news,	yes.		
MC:	Are	there	any	others?	
POS:	I	mean,	I	typically	do	read	the	New	York	Times	online,	but	I	would	rather	read	it	from	a	
printed	copy.		
MC:	Do	you	have	it	delivered	to	your	home?	
POS:	On	the	weekends.	So,	over	the	weekend,	since	it's	gigantic	over	the	weekend,	I	do	have	it	
delivered	and	I	really	enjoy	holding	it	but	during	the	week,	I	read	it	online.		
MC:	What	is	the	big	newspaper	company	in	Georgia?	
POS:	The	Atlanta	Journal	Constitution.	
MC:	The	Atlanta	Journal	Constitution?	
POS:	We	receive	that.		
MC:	Is	that	kind	of	like	the	Georgia	version	of	the	New	York	Times?	

�POS:	Well,	yeah,	it's	like	the	Georgia	version.	it's	not	like	the	New	York	Times,	but	yeah,	it's	the	
major	newspaper	for	Georgia.		
	
11:28	
MC:	How	did	you	start	using	digital	technology?	
POS:	When	it	became	available.	It	was	necessary	as	a	teacher	and	as	a	faculty	member.		
MC:	Did	you	use	it	a	lot	during	grad	school?	
POS:	No,	because	we	had	very	limited.	Yes,	I	did	use	it	in	graduate	school.	I	used	it	to	write	my	
doctoral	dissertation,	but	it	was	so	different	from	what	we	have	now.	It's	far	more	cumbersome.	i	
didn't	use	it	in	college,	but	I	did	use	it	for	graduate	school.		
MC:	So,	do	you	think	technology	has	helped?	
POS:	Oh	yes,	yes.	that's	why	when	you	said	you're	not	a	fan	of	iPhones	...	I	am	a	fan	of	iPhones.	I	
keep	mine	out	all	the	time.	I'm	not	a	fan	of	students	using	them	in	the	classroom.	because	I	find	it	
rude	and	they're	distractors	and	they	don't	lead	to	deep	learning	at	all	and	that's	what	I’m	not	a	fan	
of	-	I'm	not	a	fan	of	disrespectful	use	of	them.		
MC:	Oh,	okay.	Thank	you	for	clarifying.		
POS:	Yeah.		
MC:	How	has	your	relationship	with	computers	changed	over	time?	
POS:	Well,	I'm	more	skilled	so	i	can	use	it	with	a	little	less	anxiety	and	it's	just	part	of	life	now	and	it	
certainly	-	you	know	I'm	presenting	a	paper	in	Norway	next	week,	that's	why	you	have	the	week	off	
basically.		
MC:	Norway?	
POS:	Read	your	syllabus.	anyhow	you	know,	I've	finished	writing	my	paper	for	that	that	I'm	
presenting	and	you	know,	it	used	to	be	when	I	was	a	first	or	second	year	as	an	undergraduate,	I	was	
using	a	typewriter	where	you	had	to	use	white	out	so	you	can	imagine	the	amount	of	time	that	took	
so	I	can't	fathom	not	having	a	computer	these	days	so	I'm	a	big	fan.	they	make	my	life	easier.		
MC:	This	is	unrelated	but	how	do	you	do	it?	How	do	you	balance	everything?	Writing	papers	and	
teaching?		
POS:	Well	you	have	to	be	very	disciplined	and	kind	of	have	your	life	in	order.	I	think	having	a	baby	
many	many	years	ago	teaches	you	that	if	you're	going	to	work	outside	the	home	and	raise	children	
at	the	same	time	and	be	married	or	be	in	a	partnership,	you	have	to	find	a	way	to	get	all	that	in	and	
then	when	you	do	that	it's	just	discipline	you	know?	Carving	out	periods	of	time	where	you	know,	
from	5	to	8,	that's	family	time.	If	you	notice,	and	I	said	this	in	class,	I	don't	do	emails	-	work	emails	
on	the	weekend	or	after	about	6-7	at	night	because	I	feel	like	that's	my	family	time	and	it's	my	time	
maybe	to	do	things	for	myself	like	read	a	novel	so	I	think	you	have	to	carve	out	time.		

�MC:	And	on	top	of	all	of	that	you're	still	writing	papers.	I	don't	know	how	you	do	it.		
POS:	chuckles.	Well,	I've	had	a	lot	of	experience.		
MC:	Of	the	activities	you	have	described	so	far,	which	has	been	the	most	complex	for	you	to	learn?	
POS:	I	think	Canvas.	Prior	to	Canvas,	we	had	Blackboard.	I	don't	think	Canvas	is	particularly	user	
friendly.		
MC:	You	like	Blackboard	more?	
POS:	I	like	blackboard	more.	It's	been	such	a	slow	process	in	terms	of	technology.	It's	been	hard.	I	
think	each	major	milestone	is	hard	for	me.	But	now,	you	know	I've	been	so	accustomed,	so	Canvas	
has	been	the	newest.	As	you	see	from	class,	I	don't	a	lot	of	tech.	It's	mostly	PowerPoint	embedded	
videos	and	that	type	of	thing.	I'm	not	on	the	edge	of	doing	a	lot	of	technologically	sexy	stuff	in	the	
classroom	so	you	know,	I	do	what	I	feel	like	I	need	to	do.	So,	I	would	say	going	back	to	your	
question,	Canvas	has	been	my	latest	struggle.		
MC:	What	do	you	think	makes	Canvas	so	difficult	to	use	compared	to	Blackboard.		
POS:	To	me,	it's	not	as	intuitive	to	use	as	Blackboard	is.		
MC:	Okay	
POS:	And	I	even	see	our	IT	experts	struggling	with	it.		
MC:	Why	did	we	make	the	change?	
POS:	I	think	it	was	a	university	decision	and	I	don't	know	about	that.	I’m	just	a	teacher.	laughs.		
MC:	Can	you	tell	me	about	any	activities	you	wish	you	knew	how	to	complete	with	your	device?	
POS:	No,	and	it's	probably	due	to	the	fact	that	I	don't	know	what's	out	there	and	I'm	not	particularly	
interested.		
MC:	You	have	what	you	need.		
POS:	I	have	what	I	need,	yes.		
MC:	How	would	you	describe	someone	who	is	digitally	literate?	
POS:	I	mean	for	me,	it	would	someone	who	could	simply	use	a	computer	well	and	have	a	tool	bag	of	
some	kind	to	draw	from	when	something	goes	wrong.	I	can	use	technology	fairly	well	as	long	as	
everything	is	working	perfectly	but	when	something	goes	wrong	-	like	for	example,	in	your	class,	
assigning	weights	to	each	of	your	assignments	like	you	know	the	quizzes	and	the	midterm	coming	
up	and	all	the	stuff.	That's	not	as	intuitive	on	Canvas.	I	didn't	do	it	correctly	and	when	that	
happened,	I	was	*wailing	noises*	and	so	I	had	to	call	some	IT	people	and	they	were	having	some	
difficulty	too.	So,	I	think	having	some	tools	to	draw	from	when	something	goes	wrong	and	I	don't	
think	I	have	that	many.		
MC:	Is	there	something	I	did	not	ask	that	i	should	have	asked?	
POS:	Hm.	I	can't	think	of	anything.	Many	of	these	are	interesting	questions,	it	forces	me	to	look	back	
at	my	relationship	with	technology.	I	will	just	say	this,	it's	been	very	anxiety	producing	to	me.	I	

�think,	you	know,	I	look	at	my	daughter's	journey	and	I	look	at	my	journey,	and	of	course	my	
daughter	is	much	older	than	you	are,	but	she	was	using	technology	since	she	was	a	baby.	I	didn't	
start	using	it	until	I	was	in	my	30's	when	I	was	in	graduate	school	and	so	it's	been	a	very	anxiety	
producing	kind	of	thing	for	me	and	I	have	tried	to	work	on	to	overcome	that.	and	that's	something	
your	generation	probably	doesn't	have	a	clue	about	because	you	were	born	with	it	and	you've	used	
it	constantly,	so	I	think	those	of	us	who	are	older,	I	mean	I	can't	think	of	one	person	in	my	cohort	or	
age	group	that	doesn't	have	anxiety	around	technology	to	some	extent.		
MC:	Are	there	psychologists	who	are	studying	how	technology	affects	children?	
POS:	Oh,	oh	my	gosh,	yes.	And	the	picture's	not	pretty.	Oh,	there's	a	lot	on	that	and	there's	a	lot	on	
iPhones	and	all	types	of	digital	vehicles	and	it's	not	the	technology	that's	bad,	it's	the	overuse	of	it	
and	using	it	-	we've	talked	a	bit	about	this	in	class	-	it's	using	it	uh,	rather	than	talking	to	individuals,	
it's	an	obsession	with	it.	I	mean	I	look	at	all	of	you	folks	going	around	the	campus	and	it's	always	
like	this	*looks	down	at	hands	and	begin	to	pretend	texting*	and	no	one	looks	at	you	eyeball	to	
eyeball	and	says,	'how's	your	day?'	I	don't	know	if	it	was	your	class	I	was	saying	this	to,	but	the	
faculty	have	noticed	for	the	first	time	is	on	the	quad,	on	beautiful	days	especially	in	the	spring	when	
the	weather	begins	to	get	a	little	warm	and	now	when	the	temp	starts	dropping	a	little	bit	and	it's	
just	nice	outside	-	we	used	to	see	students	out	on	the	quad	either	taking	naps	or	talking	with	one	
another	or	having	soda	or	coke	with	one	another.	We	very	rarely	see	that	anymore.	Everyone	is	on	
their	iPhones	and	everyone	is	sitting	inside	with	their	PCs	and	laptops	and	to	me	it's	a	huge	loss	for	
your	generation.	It's	a	huge	loss.	In	terms	of	children,	we	know	technology	rewires	the	brain	in	
ways	that	are	negative.	So,	I	don't	think	it's	by	chance	that	ADHD	is	on	the	rise	because	everyone	
wants	an	answer	now.	No	one	has	any	patience.	If	Google	can't	produce	it,	something's	wrong,	and	
the	individual	goes	crazy.	Technology	to	me	is	very	dangerous.	It	can	be	very	good	for	children	if	
used	appropriately,	but	it's	not	being	used	appropriately.		
MC:	Has	your	grandson	started	using	technology	yet?	
POS:	Well,	he's	only	8	months,	but	I	was	with	him	last	night	and	he	has	all	these	toys	that	light	up	
and	play	music	and	my	daughter	was	saying	she	read	an	article	saying	that	all	these	slick	toys	that	
you're	seeing	for	your	children	overstimulate	babies.		
MC:	Oh,	I	didn't	know	overstimulation	was	a	thing.		
POS:	Oh	yeah,	well	you	know	yourself.	If	you're	wired	up	over	something	-	it	doesn't	have	to	be	
technology	-	it	may	be	a	phone	call	from	a	family	member	and	things	are	crazy	at	home	and	it's	right	
before	you	go	to	sleep,	you're	wired	and	it's	hard	for	you	to	fall	asleep.	Technology	does	that	too.	
Facebook	-	you	see	that	everyone	else	is	going	to	Paris	for	spring	break	and	you're	not,	and	you're	
thinking,	why	is	my	life	so	dull?	it	overstimulates	in	many	many	ways	towards	depression,	towards	
anxiety.	This	is	what	psychologists	and	psychiatrists	are	concerned	about	and	we	as	a	faculty	are	
concerned	about.	Students	want	answers	now,	they're	very	impatient,	I	don't	think	that's	unrelated	
to	growing	up	with	technology.	
	
MC:	I	think	that's	all	I	have.	Thank	you.		

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Interview #15 – Post-1980 Birthdate
September 2018
Introduction
This is an oral interview with a first-year student at Oxford College of Emory University. She is
originally from New York, NY and born between 1996 and 2000. She is a Chinese American citizen who speaks both English and Cantonese. The interview included questions about her experiences and development of skills using digital technologies. As a bilingual student, she is often
found Snapchatting her friends or using WeChat to communicate with her Cantonese speaking
relatives. She elected to use her iPhone 8 for the interview. For confidentiality purposes, the interviewee’s name has been replaced with the letters MC.
The interview was conducted by Tracy Eng, an Asian female of 19 years old. She is a current
first year student at Oxford College of Emory University. She is a member of the Digital Natives
Discovery Seminar and is interested in understanding digital technologies and how they affect
society as a whole. She is a resident of New Jersey and is interested in studying chemistry.
Transcript
TE: So, I've already taken a picture of your device, but is there anything that you'd like to tell
me about why you chose this device?
MC: It’s the device that I'm most on like almost all the time. It's the device that I feel like I get to
use it the most to its fullest potential, whereas compared to my laptop I'm not using it in a way to
its fullest extent.
TE: That's cool! I can totally relate. So, can you look at records of activities that you were involved in this past month? These might be records of activities such as a calendar app, to-do list,
or invitations to events on social media. What apps or programs do you use to record these activities?
MC: I use the Apple calendar because it syncs up with my laptop. During course selection, I used
numbers to ensure that my classes didn't interfere with each other and it also created an outline of
my schedule. It was very helpful for formatting.

�TE: Yeah. I should have done that. I scheduled one class where there's 5 minutes in between the
next class.
MC: Really? How do you manage?
TE: It’s the course Learning to Lead, but luckily the person who teaches it is in my class before
so he moved the class back 5 minutes. But back to you, based on what you see on your device,
what were your main activities during this past month?
MC: I've been watching a lot of Netflix, using Snapchat, and checking my emails a lot.
TE: Sorry I think you're misunderstanding the question. The question means: what kind of activities like physical activities you are involved in?
MC: Oh okay! School. School…mostly school. Chuckles
TE: Laughs as well. Is there a class that is most significant to you based on your calendar?
MC: Not really. I mean the app helps me keep on track of Ox Studies because it helps me know
what, where and when I should go to certain events. It allows me to schedule for the next days
and week. It also allows me to keep on track of interviews because it is club interview season.
TE: So, what patterns do you notice in these activities?
MC: I don't really do anything on the weekdays. Chuckles I mean I don't really have a consistent
schedule. I haven't had a consistent weekend where I’ve done something one weekend and then
repeated it the next. Everything has been different. Like it seems like you do laundry on the
weekends. I do laundry whenever. So, I need to figure out a routine.
TE: Are there any activities that are not reflected in your calendar?
MC: No not really. If anyone were to spy on me and had access to my calendar, they would be
easily able to find me and know what I'm doing. Besides that, I really like the Calendar app because it helps me remember what I have to do on Saturdays and throughout the weekend.
TE: Interesting. So now we are going to move on the category of people. Can you look through
your device and see what records you have on what people and relationships you have been in-

�volved with? For example you may see records of people who have contacted you or you contacted them. This may be phone calls, text messages, emails, FaceTime calls, or social media interaction. Use roles or relationship names rather than their proper names.
MC: For Facetime, I called a friend back at home a couple of times. For text messages, I have
contacted a couple of friends here. But I still feel like I am in the point where I am still exchanging phone numbers and am at the point of “Hey this is MC!” or “Oh great this is blah blah” so I
have been sending those type of messages. I am on snapchat a lot to keep up to date with friends
at home. And Streaks (Both chuckle). On Instagram, it’s so nice to finally get to see the people I
have been following for a while in person.
TE: Yeah! I agree.
MC: For calls, I call my grandma every Saturday. That’s about it. I should be on WeChat more
because my parents send me voice audios. But I don’t really like Wechat. So, when I get voice
audios I will typically call my dad back.
TE: WeChat. Laughs
MC: Do you have a WeChat?
TE: Nope. Someone asked me yesterday and I was like “Nope, I’m not cool enough.” (Both
laugh). So, moving on, how do you decide what form of communication to use?
MC: If it’s an emergency I will text. It just depends on...mmm let me think.
TE: So, for like a basic question of “How was your day?” what would you do?
MC: Oh! For things like that, I will just text. So, I guess for an emergency, I will call. Then if it’s
just for something like “Oh this just happened to me!” then I would take a snap, like a streaks
snap.
TE: What patterns do you notice in your interpersonal communication on your device?
MC: Patterns? Oh, when I wake up, I check Facebook, Instagram, Snapchat, Email, like while
eating breakfast. Then throughout the day, I will do the same thing during lunch. I also will
check my email occasionally throughout the day. Then posting wise, I don’t really post that
much.

�TE: Same.
MC: I don’t like to post.
TE: Am I following you on Instagram? Pretty sure. It’s (MC’s Instagram handle), right?
MC: Yeah. Laughs
TE: So, what important interactions with people are not reflected on your device?
MC: Study sessions. Umm…
TE: What exactly do you mean?
MC: It’s hard to study for math over text or like...so I like meeting up with people to discuss
things face to face. I don’t record or take pictures when I am hanging out with people. I just like
hanging out.
TE: See my friends and I snapchat each other from across the room. So, it’s good. Chuckles
MC: Good documentation. Laughs
TE: Yeah, it’s definitely time well spent. Laughing. So now we are going to move into the category of place. Can you look through your device to see what records of places you went during
this past month? You can use places on your calendar, navigation services such as Google maps,
location services such as on your phone, location based social media or self-check apps such as
used in fitness apps. So, what apps do you use?
MC: Yesterday, I searched Murdy Hall because I was going to order food with a friend. But
those plans didn’t fully go through. I really wanted pizza but I know it’s going to be a letdown
because I am from New York.
TE: Same. I have been also really wanting pizza. Chuckles
MC: I also searched Sweet Hut because it’s been a while since I had Asian food.
TE: Same. I went to Duluth yesterday for that reason.

�MC: I was also really bored and decided to look at what there is to do around here. I also used
Lyft because I don’t know how to drive. So usually I take the shuttle to main campus but Lyft to
like Sweet Hut.
TE: Well, if you ever want to get Asian food, let me know.
MC: Do you ever miss Asian food?
TE: Yes, that’s why I really wanted to go to Duluth yesterday.
MC: I’ve been missing noodles, like I really want something soupy such as ramen or pho.
TE: Moving on because we are really off topic. Both laugh Do you use any apps or services to
navigate to locations?
MC: Yes, usually Google Maps.
TE: Did you put Murdy Hall into Google Maps?
MC: Yes. Laughs. But not because I didn’t know how to walk there, but because I wanted to see
the number of the address.
TE: Ok. Chuckling. Do you use any apps to track your movement?
MC: Uh not really. I mean I use SnapMap but for only one person. Like my friend got annoyed
that I wasn’t on it.
TE: You can do that?
MC: Yeah you just select only these friends. So, I only have one person. I don’t really want the
whole world knowing where I am. Oh, and Apple Maps I don’t really use that often.
TE: Do you use these apps to check into places?
MC: No. I mean I know people who check into Yelp to get higher Yelp scores. I also know that
some places will give you a free drink if you check into a place.
TE: I don’t know I think it’s creepy.

�MC: Yeah. I completely agree. That’s why I don’t really use it. It’s also annoying.
TE: Do you have location services turned on in your phone or Google Maps?
MC: It’s on in Google Maps all of the time. But if I need to send a friend my location through a
text, I will turn the location settings for my phone, but otherwise I will have it off.
TE: So, what patterns do you notice in the places you visited or moved from place to place?
MC: I don’t think there is really much pattern. I mean I’m still discovering and exploring places
around Oxford.
TE: How did you first learn how to navigate to new places?
MC: When I was younger my grandpa always brought me places. Before we went anywhere we
would look at the MTA map. We would draw out an idea of what circles we would have to get to
and from. So, we would always use paper maps. But when I got older, my grandpa drew out a
little map to show me what trains to take and what stops to get on and off. When I was growing
up, I never really used Google Maps, it was mainly paper because that’s what my Grandpa knew
how to use.
TE: That’s interesting. My grandpa would kind of do the same thing, where he would navigate
something on MapQuest online but then print it out. I always thought it was weird.
MC: My grandpa had a paper map of all the streets in Manhattan. I tried to teach him how to use
Google Maps, but he claimed he liked his map better even though I had taught him how to use
the technology. I mean it was a big piece of paper. I don’t understand. Laughs.
TE: What important places or navigational practices are not reflected on your device? I assume
that it’s probably you and your grandpa’s use of paper maps.
MC: Yeah definitely, paper maps are not on my device. But since we are now in a new place, I
wouldn’t even try using a paper map here at Oxford.
TE: Same. I’m not even sure where you would find one.
Both laugh
TE: Are there any apps that you use to discover new places?

�MC: I sometimes use Eventbrite or when Facebook tells you what is going on around you, I will
use that.
TE: So, moving on to Media.
MC: Oh, I use Facebook, Instagram, and Snapchat. I mean I also use WeChat and I post things
on there but I only use it so that my grandparents are up-to-date on what's going on with me but
it's never stuff that I would post on Facebook or Instagram. I don't know if it would be good
enough to post on Instagram or Facebook.
TE: Yeah same. I don't really like posting either. Do you prefer any of these apps over the other?
MC: I usually prefer Facebook over all of them. Because, as I said before, they have events. It's
like combining everything into one app. But lately I have been liking Instagram more. Maybe it
has to do with the visuals.
TE: Yeah! I agree. Also, because of the Instagram stories, like Snapchat, you can see what other
people are doing in that instant. Based on what you see on your device, is there any social media
that you create the most?
MC: I don't really create things. I mean I wish I could edit videos. It's definitely something I
would like to learn how to do.
TE: Are there any examples of social media that are most significant to you?
MC: I guess I really like Snapchat because I like contacting people that I haven't seen in a month.
With streaks, I don't miss people as much because for the past month or so we've been sending
each other one liners. We know that we still exist. It’s just the easiest and fastest form of communication. Chuckles
TE: So, moving from that, do you produce or alter any form of social media?
MC: Not really. I mean even with photos, I don’t know how to edit them. I really wish I could
edit photos.
TE: Same I don't post enough to know or learn how to do it. Are there any patterns in your social
media use?

�MC: I guess it's the whole breakfast and lunch pattern where I check my social media.
TE: Do you check it during dinner?
MC: Yeah. I guess it's the whole three meal thing, but overall I just check it whenever I am
bored.
TE: Interesting. I would say the same for myself. Is there any way that you store media in particular?
MC: I only really store photos, but when it gets to too much, I will transfer it to a USB, but I
don't really do this too often.
TE: Do you share this media with others in specific ways?
MC: Not really. Aside from occasionally posting, I am not that active on social media.
TE: Can you tell me about any strategies that you use to ensure your privacy on social media?
MC: For Facebook Messenger, I keep locations off because I do not want it sent or I don't want
people to know where I'm texting from. For Snapchat, I don't like using the filters because I don't
like people knowing my location unless it's really cool.
TE: Is there any form media that is not reflected in the information on your device? This would
include reading physical newspapers, listening to the radio, watching television, playing videos
games or any other examples.
MC: Even with reading newspapers, I will read it on my phone. So no, not really.
TE: How did you start using digital technology? How has your relationship grown throughout
your lifetime?
MC: I watched a lot of television as a kid but I never started using the computer until elementary
school and it wasn’t until after I took a couple of computer classes that were a part of my school
day. Since then I've been continually using it.
TE: Of the activities that you've described so far, what form of digital technology was the most
complex for you to learn?

�MC: Microsoft Excel, I feel that it is very confusing. But now that I'm more familiar with it, I
feel that it is pretty easy to use. I still wish I could learn how to budget my money using Microsoft Excel.
TE: Same I would like to learn how to balance my finances using Excel. Where did you learn
how to use these complex digital technologies?
MC: It was always in a school setting, like for Microsoft PowerPoint, we would learn how to use
it to record voices, but through the computer games we played in school, so I never felt like I
have learned anything.
TE: Can you tell me about any activities that you wish you knew how to do?
MC: I would have to say coding and how to use Excel in a more complex away. I would also like
to learn how to edit videos.
TE: Why do you wish you knew how to complete these tasks?
MC: I feel that it would save me a lot of time in future activities and it's very applicable in many
settings.
TE: Do you feel that you need these skills to work effectively in today's society?
MC: I feel that to function in today's society you definitely have to know how to use Microsoft
Word and PowerPoint and also how to write professional emails.
TE: Laughs. I think they should have a course that teaches these things. Going from that, what
skills should a digitally literate person be defined as having?
MC: I think it is someone who has the ability to see something wrong with digital technology
and be able to fix it without asking for help. I think that is what it means to be digitally literate.
TE: Do you think that you are digitally literate?
MC: No. I often forget how to do basic things on the computer. For example, I keep forgetting
how to take a basic screenshot of my computer screen and I keep having to look it up.
TE: Because you don’t consider yourself digitally literate, what else would you like to learn?

�MC: I would like to become more comfortable with the shortcuts on my keyboard. I also want to
learn various terms used. For instance, when buying a laptop, someone who is digitally literate
would know exactly what they want and how to buy a particular system. If I were to buy a new
laptop, I would not exactly know what to do.
TE: Is there anything else you would like me to know?
MC: No. I think the questions were pretty thorough. But I think people who build their own computers are pretty insane too.
TE: That’s very true.
MC: It’s like being literate with digital technologies on a whole different level.

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Archive of Personal Digital History
Interview #13 – Pre-1980 Birthdate
October 2018
Introduction
This is an oral interview with Dr. Heunggi Park, an Asian male of 53 years old. The interview
included questions about his past experiences with digital technology and how these technologies
have affected his daily life events. Dr. Park is a visiting assistant professor at Oxford College of
Emory University in the mathematics department. He is originally from South Korea but moved
to study and work at the University of Georgia prior to teaching at Oxford. He uses technology
quite frequently to create math tests using Latex and Mat lab. Initially, Dr. Park chose to use his
Microsoft Surface Pro tablet for the interview, but decided to switch to use his iPhone 7 in the
beginning of the interview.
The interview was conducted by Tracy Eng, an Asian female of 19 years old. She is a current
first year student at Oxford College of Emory University. She is a member of the Digital Natives
Discovery Seminar and is interested in understanding digital technologies and how they affect
society as a whole. She is a resident of New Jersey and is interested in studying chemistry.
Transcript
TE: Can you tell me why you chose to use this device?
HP: So…I’m still using this device, but I use the iPad Pro more and I think that the one thing is
the portability of the iPad is good, but sometimes I couldn’t ehh do some computation like
running Latex, which is mostly I do to make some mathematical document. And there is some
problem in the iPad which is not really sufficient, so I was looking for something portable at the
same time that I could use Latex ehhh…to compile. I guess sometimes…so it looks like Surface
Pro at the time is good and I got a good deal for the device, so I decided to buy it. But the
problem is that I haven’t used this device for a while and I picked up this one last yesterday
because I forgot to bring my MacBook (chuckles) so I need a temporary device to use yesterday,
today and tomorrow, but I use this one sometimes yeah.
TE: How many devices do you have in total?

�HP: Total? So, Surface Pro, MacBook and…Samsung S2 Galaxy Tablet and I have iPad Mini
and…iPhone (pulls out of pocket) and this iBook…so six (both laugh). So right now, there are
six, but I do have one more that I share with my son…it’s a Chromebook. So, six or seven.
TE: (Laughing) I have like three and people are like that is a lot.
HP: Yeah, yeah. (Laughing) Right, some use some more than others. I use more in general. So,
the most I use is my MacBook and the iPad Mini and my favorite is probably the iPad Mini still.
I tried using Samsung and Microsoft, but I like iPad Mini more. So, the most I use is MacBook
and iPad.
TE: Do you prefer Apple software over Microsoft?
HP: I’m more used to it. I have been using it for…I don’t know…I started using Mac since I
think 1991 or 2 something like that. So, I am used to it and so I used Microsoft for a while, but I
am still used to Apple. So, I mainly use my MacBook, iPhone and iPad. Most of my programs
and systems that I use are difficult to change to Microsoft.
TE: So, to start, can you look at your activities on your device? Can you look at what records
you have of activities you were involved in the past month? This might include your calendar
app, or a to do list, or an invitation to events of social media or a journaling app. What apps or
programs do you use to plan, coordinate or record your activities?
HP: Yeah…it’s not good. So, I usually use MacBook to tell me when things are. Most of my
activity is through that MacBook. So most activity on the MacBook is… (pulls out iPhone)
TE: Do you sync everything up on your calendar app?
HP: Not everything but…can I change the device to my iPhone, so my answers make more sense
using this one. So, let’s change this. Yeah, so iPhone because iPhone and MacBook are kind of
in the same…yeah, yeah. It’s an iPhone 7. So, this phone, I got last September so I have had it
for one year. I’m using Calendar, which I sync with the MacBook and iPad. I use usually three
apps together. So, one is Calendar, Reminders and Notes. So, if I write…I don’t put all of my
activities in my Calendar, only important activities. Reminders is for reminders of things I need
to do that require more reminding than just the Calendar app. And sometimes I need to take some
information or notes, I will record it in the Notes app. So, these three apps I use in all three of my
devices, so I can open it on any MacBook, iPad or iPhone, so I can write those things down. So,
the mostly used apps is the Notes because I write down a lot of notes. So yeah.
TE: So, based on that, what are your main activities based on what you use for Notes?

�HP: So its uhhh… (Pulls out Notes App and provides visual explanation) So as you see…so
these are my recent activities. I have many different ones. I use my notes to take information and
prepare. These are usually for activities at my church. I was meeting a small group, a study group
at the church, so I collected all the information about that, such as bible study. Then I connected
it on the app and I guess most of the things are Korean obviously, like this and that. But this one
is English. So, I collect all of these things in the Notes app and then I use them. Most of it is for
Bible Study. But during the week, for my school work, I don’t really use my phone. I mainly use
the program called Latex, so it can generate every mathematical document. It’s a little bit of
coding, not a lot, just simple coding on Latex to get some mathematical document. But that is the
most active program I use.
TE: So, is that how you design quizzes and papers?
HP: Yes, exactly.
TE: Oh, ok cool! I’ve always wondered how you type in logs and how you write them out on a
computer.
HP: That is one thing why I always thought having an iPad was good. So sometimes the support
over is not nice. Actually, the apps that generate the…the mathematical document such as Latex
are not good enough. They are sometimes very difficult to use. That is why I bought my
Microsoft Surface Pro to replace my iPad, but still for the main computations I use the MacBook
Pro.
TE: What patterns do you notice in these activities?
HP: That’s…a good question. Do you mean in my life?
TE: Yeah.
HP: Let me check something like screen time.
TE: You mean FaceTime?
HP: No screen time.
TE: Oh, I don’t know what you are talking about.

�HP: So, if you go here… (pulls out phone and demonstrates screen time display from settings).
TE: Oh ok! I don’t have that on my phone.
HP: It’s like you use the iPhone and it tells you how you use it, obviously right? So…
TE: Mhmm I see.
HP: So, let’s see what I did… (looks at screen timing). So…
TE: So, you can limit the time on a specific app? That’s so cool.
HP: Yeah exactly.
TE: I didn’t know you could do that.
HP: It’s a new one. It’s an update on the IOS. It’s not that old. It wasn’t there. It came out a
couple of months ago. So, if you look here…I don’t know what they call but they break it into
categories for productivity, health and fitness and something like that. Yeah, I didn’t really use
the health and fitness today. So, the most activity is kind of you know like quite…not any more
scheduled, but you know I want to get fit, so I always check my activity. I don’t play, but I used
to play tennis, but I don’t play anymore. So, you know I usually just walk, and some of the
activities are a little more… obviously I’m teaching so teaching related activities, like checking
Canvas and the email are mainly prevalent on my screen time. And of course, I read the
newspaper because I need to stay connected at home. But over time I have realized that I don’t
want to follow too much of the sports teams…I would just read the news over time. So, kind of
that side…after you finish the productivity activity, such as preparing your class or checking the
important emails and those things, after that, well sometimes I realize I spend some time reading
those newspaper articles and following some Korean news. After that I follow the sports teams I
would.
TE: Do you have any favorite sports teams?
HP: Yeah. Yeah. The Georgia teams…Bulldogs because I studied there and then I’ve been
supporting them for 10 years. So, Bulldogs are my favorites. But sometimes I turn on the Braves
baseball games since I was in…when I was in Korean, I would watch the Braves games before I
came here. So, I followed them prior to moving here.
TE: How did you follow the Braves from Korea? Did you use news apps?

�HP: No. No, it was on TV. There’s a Korean, AFKM, something like
that…America…AFKM…umm Armed Forces Korean Network.
TE: Oh ok.
HP: So, it kind of you know…
TE: So, it just streams whatever games you want?
HP: Yeah right. Right. So, you…it’s not public so if your close to some military base, then you
can watch them because they broadcast them inside the American base. Not far away from it, I
lived close, so you know we could watch probably kind of illegally. (Both chuckles) You weren’t
supposed to watch but you can watch the American TV. I watched some baseball and football
games from Korea. So of course, I wasn’t living in Georgia yet. (both laughing).
TE: So, what important activities are not reflected in this information?
HP: I think I’ve told everything, right? In here the activities are checking mail and messages
mostly and then writing notes using notes to write some and create some notes for remarks for
my bible study. That’s what I mainly do in here. But some other activities not recorded precisely
in here, but in my MacBook Pro are to create some mathematical documents and to…read some
newspapers because the phone is kind of small. Also, sometimes I watch and stream some videos
through YouTube or YouTube TV, all on the MacBook Pro.
TE: So now on to People. Can you look through your device to look at people you’ve been
involved with in the past month? These can be people who you’ve contacted or contacted you.
These can be phone records, text messages, emails, social media interactions, or video calls.
HP: So yeah. Of course, obviously my favorite person to contact is my wife, if you look at my
messages it's to mostly my wife and my friend and my son and daughter. I mean these days, not
many people use messages anymore. Do you use this thing? (pointing to a specific app)
TE: No. No, I’ve never heard of that.
HP: It’s a Korean company, so a lot of Korean people have it. So KaKao Talk, it’s like a
message app…
TE: Oh ok.

�HP: If you have a Korean friend, they might have it.
TE: Oh, I’ll ask my friend.
HP: Yeah right. So, like as you see, most of contacts are my friend that I am staying with during
the weekdays. His house, which is empty during the weekday, they only use it over the weekend,
I stay there on the weekdays. So, you can see here that that’s his house and I am also staying in
the church choir. So, they send me all kinds of information. Here’s how we sang last weekend.
And then…a good thing is you can talk in Korean, so our family…this is my wife’s family. They
have a group chatting room. They call it Chatting Room. And then we get all of those
information from them. Sometimes too much (both laugh). So that is that. And then…other ones
are mostly me coordinating activities at the church, in this phone number. So that is going to be
it. And then on the Notes…wait can you repeat the question again?
TE: What kinds of apps do you use to communicate with people the most?
HP: So, I think KaKao Talk is the most. Then obviously the email app. Then the phone and the
messengers are the next one. But through KaKao Talk I can talk with friends and family
members in Korean and some friends in the church and other places and then of course email is
used mainly for school to communicate…. with the people I work with and students and some of
that information I use.
TE: How do you decide what mode of communication to use over the other? Do you use a
specific form of communication for a particular situation?
HP: I guess I don’t have any preference…I think I prefer to talk through the phone instead of the
messages if possible. But sometimes people want to use messages over a phone conversation, but
I guess that’s their opinion. I guess for the school activity I prefer email for obvious reasons, I
think. I think that…and also…I respond to communication by whatever works with the other
person.
TE: What patterns do you notice in your interpersonal communication?
HP: Communication? The patterns…that’s a good question…it's an important word used in math
(both laugh) I don’t know if I see any patterns, its more random.
TE: So, it’s whenever needed?

�HP: Yeah! Right, right…whenever needed I do that…and I don’t…in fact I have reputation that I
don’t respond. I don’t get a lot of phone calls a lot these days because I don’t respond to phone
calls. (both laugh)
TE: That’s okay neither do I. (both laugh)
HP: So, if they have an important call, they will call my wife instead of me. (both chuckle) My
wife, they give her messages, and then she will call me. So, then I will respond. So, it’s more
random. I try to not get too involved with social networking because…uhhh…I try to…you
know…not be disconnected…I don’t want to be disconnected but at the same time I don’t want
to be involved in those and for obvious reasons. So, it’s more responsive if there is ever a need I
will respond to whatever social network or whatever the things are, for more like…if there were
a pattern that is my pattern.
TE: That is probably the same for me. I don’t really…if you called, I probably wouldn’t answer.
So, what important interactions are not reflected on your device?
HP: Uhhh…well obviously the postings of meetings, right? They…I guess not…these days this
(pointing to the phone) is everything. We don’t have any more landlines at home. So, there is no
phone at home. So, the cellphone is the only device…mmhmm.
TE: Even with meetings you reschedule with your phone.
HP: Yeah right. Right.
TE: So, looking at places. Can you look through your device to see what records you have of
places you went during this past month? You can use records on your calendar, a mapping app
such as Google Maps, location services data on your phone, or in location based social media
apps such as Four Square or self-checking apps?
HP: So, I am looking at Google Maps. I don’t know… (scrolling through Google Maps and
trying to find latest locations) I mean I know in my head where I have been last, but I couldn’t
find…but I think everything should be in the Google Maps because I always take find my phone
with me…but I don’t know how to find it. Do you know how to use it?
TE: Ummm…usually when you look at places.
HP: No those are places.

�TE: No, you can look at places like home and stuff.
HP: So obviously places like my home, the place I stay, and then…if I…
TE: You can look at activity saved.
HP: Yeah there are many saved. Right there I have 56 places. Oh, wait here are favorites
(pointing to screen). Oh, right there. That’s the place my wife goes. We have been a couple of
times and then…I have no idea what this is…oh okay that is my son’s dentist…what is this? Oh
yeah, I went to Starbucks obviously. So, if I can find that place, such as home, which is
northwest Georgia, this place, Oxford College, and then the place I stay which is called **** it’s
near Athens, GA. It’s about ten miles from Athens.
TE: Oh, near University of Georgia!
HP: Yeah. Yeah. That’s where I stay during the weekdays.
TE: So, you drive there and back from…
HP: Yeah. Yeah. It’s better than…
TE: Oh, the two hours to Northwest Georgia.
HP: I’ve driven home three times already.
TE: Do you go home every weekend?
HP: Yeah, I go home two or three times a week. I stay there the weekend. So that and then…on
the way there are main places that I usually go. One of them is a Korean grocery store in Duluth.
So, I go there and if traffic is busy, I will stay at a Starbuck near there. That’s why Starbucks is
great. So, I usually stay there a little bit to wait a little for the traffic to get better. Yeah. Yeah. I
like Starbucks.
TE: Do you feel that Google Maps helps you on the traffic?
HP: Yeah Google Maps really helps. So, I drive early in the morning but sometimes there is a lot
of…construction now going on the highway. So sometimes you have no idea if you have to wait
an hour. Last Monday, the Google Maps said you have to wait 45 min and then it suggested a

�roundabout route. So, I usually turn on the Google Maps and then turn it off because it uses
battery. So, if something happens, I will turn on the Google Maps and then I realize I can turn
around or wait there for 45 min. Something like that. So, I usually turn on the Google Maps even
when I don’t need it. But if anything happens, I can change my plans. So, I usually use Google
Maps a lot and I think it's very helpful.
TE: Do any of these apps specifically track your movement? I’m assuming yes.
HP: Yeah. I’m not sure…I think it tracks my movement as long as I use Google Maps. It
definitely tracks whether I want it or not. Definitely more than I think.
TE: Do you use any apps to check into places? Like you can use Yelp to check into a place.
HP: No. No. Google Maps is the only one I use.
TE: Do you have location services turned on in your phone or Google Maps?
HP: I think so.
TE: What patterns do you notice in your movement from place to place?
HP: I don’t really see any patterns. I just…just as I described before. I really only go to those
three places mainly and then in between I stop by some Korean grocery or someplace I can stay a
little bit like a Starbucks or Panera. Those are mainly the places I go. So, there is not much…I
guess that is mainly the pattern. It’s not a very complex pattern.
TE: How did you first learn to navigate to new locations?
HP: I mean in the past you used the maps. You had to study it a lot and write down on the
physical maps when traveling and then you have to write down every stop you want and the
important…streets and numbers. So, you write down with your hand on the map. And then of
course I have a lot…many interesting memories about the maps. I mean even if you write it,
you’ve never been there and it’s not going to be the same as the map says. So, when you get
there, you will see something different and you have to, you know, improvise yourself to find the
places you need to go. (both laughing) You know I’ve had many hot discussions with my wife
about going this way but no this way. But now all of this is gone. (both laugh)
TE: Yeah now you know definitively that it is that way or the other way.

�HP: Yeah right. Right. (Laughs) Now it says everything. You don’t need a map anymore. It’s
good. (Laughs)
TE: What important places or navigational practices are reflected in your device?
HP: Still. Still, I have maps so I kind of, you know, on the phone it is very small. But if I wanted
to look at a big picture, kind of, to make a big travel plan, I still use the big map. So, I can kind
of see the general, kind of, direction, even though I use the Google Maps or navigation systems.
They are not perfect. They can give you some wrong information sometimes. Like two years
ago, we were traveling Canada and were stopping by a place to visit my friends. So that was
uhh…we were driving late evening, it was close to midnight. We were following the navigation
and then…I realized what the navigation said was different from what I was driving. It said I was
going this way, but I wasn’t. I wasn’t driving on the main highway but the road beside the
highway.
TE: So, a road parallel?
HP: Right. Right, parallel. So...so, but what the navigation wanted me to do was to drive that
highway, obviously not the road I was on. But it still said I was on the right road. So, I kind of
kept checking until we realized the navigation was directing us into the dead end. (Both
chuckling)
TE: So, you had to turn all the way around?
HP: Yeah right, we had to go back, back down that road, or something like that. So, you have to
have a bigger plan when you go to some unknown place. I guess that happens, I realize that
happens. When that happens in a rural area, it is difficult to update. But sometimes the app
updates even before that happens. But the worst is when they plan a new road and they
incorrectly input the new road, which is not there yet, into the navigation system, especially
those in rural areas. But when you travel more in one area, sometimes you may come to such
problems. So, you have to have a big picture of where you go. So, when I make a travel plans, I
still use it. Of course, now with a computer, I use a bigger Google Maps. I just look at the maps
to look at the big picture. So, when that happens, you can go back and then do whatever you
need.
TE: So now on to media, which you try to avoid. But can you look through your device to see
what records you have of media you used in the past month? This could be social media posts,

�texts, photos, music videos, TV shows, movies and games you might have used to or listened to.
Or these are things you could have created or distributed.
HP: I’ve never created social media things. I check Facebook, especially my family members’
postings from Korea. Typically, my brothers, brother in law, sister….it keeps us connected. So, I
make sure I check because they are from Korea. So, I get to see what they are doing. But I only
check…I am mainly active on Facebook for that. I follow some of the other people. But I mainly
only check for those three. But KaKao Talk is the main one. It’s kind of like social media
because you can post. Not only message but you can post pictures and also you can, well
actually, you can make a phone call or video chat there. So, you can actually call someone in
Korea without any charge because it is through KaKao Talk. Obviously, I check it daily. I also
check the email system often, quite often as I can. I guess the only thing I generate of content
would be writing an email, such as writing to my students, and posting the notes to Canvas.
That’s the only media I generate. I also watch YouTube quite a lot, especially Korean news. It’s
not the actual time, but they post those news about a half day difference. So, I can watch Korean
news maybe…10 or 12 hours after it is broadcasted because of time difference. They will post it
on YouTube. But based on the time I watch…I guess it is 24 hours difference, I will watch the
important Korean news. But now especially, there is a lot of Korean news coming up. And as I
just told you, I watch YouTube TV, especially Braves games to check if the Braves are doing
well, so Braves Games, and the Georgia Bulldogs games, the football games. Those are things I
do on the media. Did I miss anything?
TE: No, I think you are good.
HP: Oh wait. What activities I usually use these days, what I forgot to tell you, but not only do I
use Google Maps, but because I am using those busy roads, so I use the toll roads, so I watch
those toll roads. But I use Google Maps to determine if I will use the toll roads. They are very
convenient for the morning or late afternoon.
TE: So, is there any media that you use the most out of all the types of media that you use?
HP: I guess email is the one I use the most. Probably the next one is YouTube because of the
time. I watch Korean news shows, which is 15 min to one hour. So, if I have a lot of time, I will
watch the full hour. So, email is the most out of the media I use. But I don’t know if you consider
that media, I don’t know. It is media, I guess, right?
TE: Mmhhmm.
HP: Yeah. Yeah right. YouTube is next…yeah...yeah. YouTube TV is what I use to watch these

�games. It’s what I use a couple times a week. I guess I will watch something tonight, maybe the
Bulldogs first game. (laughs)
TE: Do you have any strategies for storing your media?
HP: Strategies? I’m not sure about that question. (both laugh)
TE: How do you organize your media?
HP: Obviously, I mean, I know what I want to do, but sometimes when I watch Korean news, it
is a time consuming. I mean of course I get good information and a good thing about watching
through YouTube is that you can skim though the what news content you want and then you can
skip what you aren’t interested in. So obviously I want to save my time, but I want to get some
information through those medias, but there is a lot of unwanted information, so I try to avoid
that. So instead of watching the news in real time, I like watching on YouTube. It is nice because
you can skip some of the content. Unless YouTube…you don’t get to watch on the actual time.
Sometimes watching on the actual time is nicer, especially sports games, it is much different
watching it later at a recorded time. But I will watch the recorded games, or specific clips that I
want. So, I guess my strategy is to try to spend minimal time on these medias, but try to get as
much information as I wanted. If that is a strategy, that is it.
TE: Do you have any strategies to protect your privacy on media?
HP: That’s a good question. I keep thinking about it…so…yeah, I do…I try to put minimal
information on media. I used to…one of my students who studied with me…a few years ago,
when my Facebook was hacked, all these weird emails were sent to the people I was connected
with. He contacted me and told me that my Facebook was hacked, and I should do such and such
things. It was nice. So yeah…but after that I don’t post that much information. But also,
once…some place my credit card information was stolen by someone. So, I had a couple of those
security issues encountered in the past. I try to minimize…I try to give my information as
minimally as I can. But sometimes you have to give some information to get some service
convenience, but you try to possess as much security as you can. Like on Google, I mean
sometimes on Google, it’s a little annoying, when I make a Google accounts, I put 2 or 3 other
ones to log into one device with my password. So, when I log into other devices, such as my
phone and computer, I make sure that I log in again. I make sure it asks for an authentication
every time. So, I try to do that with all of my accounts. I want to make sure its secure, even if it's
annoying to have log in multiple times. I mean passwords are an annoying thing. You change a
password now, but you will forget all the passwords combinations and then you are out of all

�possible combinations you can memorize. But you should try to keep updating those passwords
as much as I can regularly.
TE: Yeah, I mean I use like one password. (both laugh)
HP: But if you have such experience sometime later, it might happen. So…its mathematics but
the storage coding is not…it takes time but you…it can be broken. Someone will break it
eventually. If you have enough time…it will happen. So, you should not use the same password
because the security system…overtime…as clever as the hacker can be, your password can be
easily hacked. It takes time, but every sys tem can be hacked. So, you need to make sure. I
mean you cannot control everything, but you can make the situation the best you can. I know it is
annoying, but you should find some way to make a different password that is easily memorizable
but also not easily hackable.
TE: So, onto the last section. How did you start using digital technologies? How has your
relationship grown with it throughout your lifetime?
HP: So of course, I started using it…the computer to…produce and write a document, I mean
especially the school requires Latex to create mathematical documents. That is how I started
studying math. Then I started using those more portable device, kind of reading device, so I had
three Kindles. Three different generations of Kindles. But then I changed to iPad. So, the
main activities I forgot to mention was reading. Recently I don’t…the reason I have this one is
for reading (points to large screen eBook). It’s really nice and uhhh…especially if you read a lot.
So, kind of the next activity was reading. I needed a portable device, which is really nice. You
don’t have to carry as many devices. You can carry the one device, which can carry hundreds of
books. So that’s kind of how I learned. So, one way is trying to create mathematical documents
using the device I needed and the next one is to read some books and things without carrying too
many books with that device.
TE: Out of the activities you described, what was the most complex to learn? So out of the
different languages or activities, such as Google Maps. What was the most difficult to learn?
HP: I don’t know. I mean…most of the…I mean I’ve been using these for a long time and I have
become very comfortable with them and I never found that much difficulty. I mean sometimes
Google Maps is not very intuitive, so that…some things like that…I just look at what is difficult.
I mean if it's difficult it is difficult, but I never found it to be difficult. But sometimes with using
different devices, kind of, it’s difficult to coordinate all of those…if generate hundreds and
hundreds of documentss, it's not difficult, but challenging to organize all of it. I mean you can
say that is pretty difficult.

�TE: What digital skills do you think you need to operate in the professional world? Like what
skills do you need to be a professional?
HP: I guess it…depends…I think…as a math professor, I guess obviously, every math or
physicist…Latex is an essential skill to create a mathematical document. I think that it is…
TE: Do you think that coding is an intricate part in being a professional today?
HP: I don’t think so. It’s important but not…
TE: You mean that you don’t need it?
HP: It could be important but depending on…I mean some…yes…I know some mathematics
professors use coding to solve some certain problems, but usually not.
TE: So, the last question. Would you describe yourself as digitally literate?
HP: Yes. Yes. I try to, as you see, use all different kinds of devices, but I know how to use them,
even… Not really the first year, but the second year, I got the original iPad and started using it. I
tried to use different aspects as I could. I think…it’s sometimes too much to use too many
devices for all different things, but it is kind of fun and also, it's nice to use different devices.
TE: So, part of our Discovery Seminar is trying to define the meaning of being digitally literate.
How would you describe someone who is digitally literate?
HP: It’s not about coding, but it is about, depending on their need, so…they…I would describe
someone digitally literate that whenever they need the information, they need these days, they
have plenty of places, digitally, where they can find the information that they need, which if it is
digitally literate.
TE: So basically, if you have problem, you can use technology to find the answer.
HP: So yeah. Not everything but as they needed. They can do what they need digitally. I think
that should be…if you know everything…that’s not possible to know everything, but they can do
what they want digitally. I think that is what it means to be digitally literate.
TE: So, are there any other questions?

�HP: No. (both laugh)
TE: Thank you for letting me interview you.

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